Ideally, a lawyer handling my speeding ticket can use whatever legal maneuvers to try to keep the ticket off my record. The $300+ fine is annoying but not devastating to anyone driving a Taycan! But having my insurance rates go up and being one point closer to not being to drive is enough justification to find legal expertise. ?
I have rarely gotten any tickets (less than 5 in my life). Each time I do get a ticket, I get a lawyer and contest. Each ticket has been overturned, which means my record remains clean so the next time I get pulled over, the police do not see a "pattern" and I am not punished by insurance. Cost is negligible for the lawyer, and much less than insurance increases.
Fair enough. Think legal system a bit different here, so if you get the fine, you get the points and it’s all pretty formulaic unless you’ve been very excitable with the right foot. But I guess if you get off, you get off!
Yes, there are significant differences.
I feel your pain, almost.
Whoa lucky! Most would've at least walked away with speeding ticket where the LEO cites you for doing less than what you actually were doing. Where did you get pulled over? I'm from the Bay Area as well.
Right near Marin Porsche in Mill Valley--southbound 101. I was coasting down that descent from Corte Madera and the CHP officer was choosing between me and another guy barreling down the hill in a tricked-out Bronco who was behind me.
Wow! I'm with this level of severity in speeding enforcement, I am surprised they don't just go completely totalitarian on you guys, require you to have an app installed on your phone which would automatically clock your speed and compare against speed limits based on GPS, then send you the fine, license suspension, a car impound notice, or an invitation to surrender yourself to your local jail, depending on the offense. Anyone caught driving without the app would immediately be jailed and their car impounded.
Maybe he didn't stomp very hard, or was driving one of the older and/or slower Teslas. Majority of Teslas on the road T4S would either not be able to out-accelerate at all, or (starting at highway speeds) it would have taken you long enough to hit speeds above 100mph before being able to pass.
Sometimes laws are absolute. I found out the hard way when I lived in Canada as a teenager. Judge in traffic court told me explicitly, speeding it speeding, regardless of the circumstances. IIRC he said "you could have a dying person in the car driving to the hospital, if you are 1km over the speed limit, you are speeding - period". Police have the discretion to not ticket you, but it's up to the officer. Another thing I learned in Canadian traffic court, also from a judge, unlike in criminal court, in traffic court you are presumed guilty until proven innocent, so the burden is on the defense.Sorry to hear. I too got caught overtaking 72km/h on a 50km/h limit road in Switzerland (I had missed the sign and thought it was still 80km/h limit). License gone 3 months and a four figure total fine. I always stay within the limits and have little sympathy for people speeding… BUT I do not get the law when it comes to overtaking.
Hope you get a mild verdict and are soon back on the road in your Taycan
Welcome to a democracy where traffic laws are set based on politics rather than science. Special interest groups will use horrific accidents to lobby for lower speed limits. Governments will excessively lower speed limits or yellow light duration in order to generate revenue. It is actually illegal to drive at speed limit with other cars next to you if someone behind you wants to speed - it's called a rolling blockade. You can get a ticket for speeding if exceeding the speed limit, but also for obstructing traffic while you are going only the speed limit or less. The government basically just wants to be able to get you no matter what you do, so they make sure they have laws for any circumstance. The way I figure, if I can get a ticket no matter how I drive, might as well drive the way I feel is safest and best, employing countermeasures where legal to avoid paying the ticket tax.
Neh, next up is requiring car makers to integrate ticketing systems in their cars. The car already knows where you are, how fast you are going. As people keep on voting-in more stuff the government should pay for, governments are clamoring for more revenue (e.g. US just doubled the budget for Internal Revenue Service assuming the additional enforcement will more than pay for itself). I'm sure they will give the carmakers a cut from their tickets collection to incentivize thorough ticketing. Forget heated seats subscriptions, this is the ticket to recurring revenue on cars! We may even see "frequent speeder miles" for which you can collect rewards like performance parts for your car, and for the top spenders, a "get out of jail free" card.Yes, even more enforcement is what we need in London. Perhaps next up is supermarkets setting up speed cameras on their parking lots?
Not just drivers. There are laws for impeding traffic. They are, just like other traffic laws, selectively enforced, but try driving 20% under the speed limit in the toll lane (in traffic conditions where you could drive faster), especially where it's only 1 lane wide. You'd very likely get a ticket for impeding traffic (you'd also cause the toll fees to go up as they are based on the toll lane average speed).
That is because it is treated like a parking infraction - it is assigned to a car, not he driver. It is hard to have a streamlined process to prove who was driving, therefore who to issue the points to.
