Tesla to open ~20% of U.S. Superchargers to all EV by end of 2024

[Zcd1]

And it is because of people like that dude why I will avoid a Tesla supercharger unless it is a matter of being stranded.

Interesting take - so you're gonna avoid Superchargers because a Genesis owner is happy that he can now charge at Superchargers.... Seriously?!? Wow.

Okay, cool, just means more available charging spots for the rest of us....

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[thecoloradokid]

Interesting take - so you're gonna avoid Superchargers because a Genesis owner is happy that he can now charge at Superchargers.... Seriously?!? Wow.

Okay, cool, just means more available charging spots for the rest of us....

Evidently, you need more context on Dave, and his kid, Kyle. 100% Tesla kool aid drinkers. That is the type of people I try to avoid.

He had to take that vehicle to charge since he could not drive his Model S there and make that video. I could care less if he was charging a Genesis, a VW, a Porsche, a Ford, or a Rivian. It is all just clickbait Tesla supporting bull$hit made to appease the ones who are Musk/Jim Jones followers.

 

[Zcd1]

Evidently, you need more context on Dave, and his kid, Kyle.

I know exactly who he is, and couldn't give a sh*t about that.

The important thing (that you seem to have missed, apparently blinded by your distaste for Tesla) is that this is the beginning of a huge step forward for non-Tesla owners in the US.

You can pretend that the EA network is fine, but if you really believe that then you're also blinded to the reality of THAT situation.

 

[thecoloradokid]

I know exactly who he is, and couldn't give a sh*t about that.

The important thing (that you seem to have missed, apparently blinded by your distaste for Tesla) is that this is a huge step forward for non-Tesla owners in the US.

You can pretend that the EA network is fine, but if you really believe that then you're also blinded to the reality of THAT situation.

I have no issues with Tesla, nor its employee base. I previously owned two different Model S' and two different Model X's. Elon Musk is a totally different subject.

Since 2020, I have done over 75k miles in three different Taycans, an Audi e-tron, and an F-150 Lightning. Never been stranded once. In the past month I did a Colorado to Scottsdale run in my CT4s and I did a Colorado to Houston run in my F-150 Lightning. Never waited a second to use an EA charger, nor did I have to move stalls.

We all get that the CCS infrastructure is not perfect. We all get there are gaps in CCS coverage in some of the less enlightened geographic parts of the country. But, it is not as bad as some would believe.

What opening the Tesla supercharger network does is potentially add charging options, and it will hopefully force the CCS charging networks to up their game and further roll out chargers, and improve charging reliability. No one knows what Tesla's final design is for its network. Will Tesla put CCS compatible connectors on all its charging stalls in all locations? Only put them in the lesser used and more remote locations? Only put them on one or two stalls in busier locations? No one knows for sure.

It is not a huge step forward for non-Tesla owners since I can easily drive my Porsche or Ford to the majority of the country just like any Tesla owner can.

 

[Hirschaj]

It is not a huge step forward for non-Tesla owners since I can easily drive my Porsche or Ford to the majority of the country just like any Tesla owner can.

It’s common to form an opinion and not realize that other people have a completely different situation. I can’t wait for the superchargers in South TX to open up to non-Tesla so I can actually drive my Taycan down to South Padre Island in a reasonable amount of time. The only DC fast charging available down there is provided by Tesla and the expansion plans for other networks are still a couple of years away. So yeah, in my case it would be a huge step forward if it happens in the near future.

 

[irrelevant]

West Virginia could use some Superchargers open to non-Teslas, since EA seems to think there's no reason to drive through that state.

 

[thecoloradokid]

It’s common to form an opinion and not realize that other people have a completely different situation. I can’t wait for the superchargers in South TX to open up to non-Tesla so I can actually drive my Taycan down to South Padre Island in a reasonable amount of time. The only DC fast charging available down there is provided by Tesla and the expansion plans for other networks are still a couple of years away. So yeah, in my case it would be a huge step forward if it happens in the near future.

I totally agree with you, which is why I said the one of the things that opening the Tesla network does is potentially add to charging options in certain parts of the country. Areas south of I-10 will be open to you if Tesla does in fact modify their chargers in that part of the country.

 

[Hirschaj]

I totally agree with you, which is why I said the one of the things that opening the Tesla network does is potentially odd to charging options in certain parts of the country. Areas south of I-10 will be open to you if Tesla does in fact modify their chargers in that part of the country.

It will be interesting to see if they actually open those ones up. ??

 

[Zcd1]

It’s common to form an opinion and not realize that other people have a completely different situation. I can’t wait for the superchargers in South TX to open up to non-Tesla so I can actually drive my Taycan down to South Padre Island in a reasonable amount of time. The only DC fast charging available down there is provided by Tesla and the expansion plans for other networks are still a couple of years away. So yeah, in my case it would be a huge step forward if it happens in the near future.

We have the same situation on drives we do in two completely different parts of the country. Insufficient or non-existent non-Tesla DC fast charging options, so we’re essentially forced to take our Tesla.

 

[thecoloradokid]

It will be interesting to see if they actually open those ones up. ??

Tesla is not always the best when it comes to releasing details, nor keeping to timelines, so who knows what their ultimate designs are for their charging network? 100% legacy site conversion? Partial conversion? I am sure someone will eventually put in a FOIA request to see what Tesla committed to the Feds, and how much $$$$ they will get in return.

I guess we will have speculative Youtube videos to watch until Tesla decides to release details. And, if they don't release details, there will be an army of people canvasing Tesla charging locations from Maine to Hawaii trying to be the ones who "discovered" that a site has been updated.

Thank god The Mandalorian, Ted Lasso, and Succession all re-start this month.

 

[artdept]

Tesla is not always the best when it comes to releasing details, nor keeping to timelines, so who knows what their ultimate designs are for their charging network? 100% legacy site conversion? Partial conversion? I am sure someone will eventually put in a FOIA request to see what Tesla committed to the Feds, and how much $$$$ they will get in return.

I guess we will have speculative Youtube videos to watch until Tesla decides to release details. And, if they don't release details, there will be an army of people canvasing Tesla charging locations from Maine to Hawaii trying to be the ones who "discovered" that a site has been updated.

Thank god The Mandalorian, Ted Lasso, and Succession all re-start this month.

i have a feeling that because they are getting government money to open up the network, they will open the absolute min and be in "beta mode" for as long as they can. to milk as much as possible.

 

[thecoloradokid]

And then there is this. Future will be fun!

 

[Zcd1]

Tesla is not always the best when it comes to releasing details, nor keeping to timelines, so who knows what their ultimate designs are for their charging network? 100% legacy site conversion? Partial conversion?

Now we know you’re not interested in actually discussing - only trolling.

The original post literally mentions how much of their network will be opened up.

 

[thecoloradokid]

Now we know you’re not interested in actually discussing - only trolling.

The original post literally mentions how much of their network will be opened up.

They will include at least 3,500 new and existing 250 kW Superchargers along highway corridors to expand freedom of travel for all EVs, and Level 2 Destination Charging at locations like hotels and restaurants in urban and rural locations.

The release is vague on the valuable part of the Tesla charging network, the supercharging portion. Per the language Tesla could "convert" 3,000 destination chargers and 500 supercharger stalls and still meet the details of the press release.

Anyway, it really does not concern me since I live in a part of the country that is saturated with a reliable CCS infrastructure. I hope for your sake Tesla opening up supercharging locations helps you out.

Cheers

 

[xyeahtony]

And it is because of people like that dude why I will avoid a Tesla supercharger unless it is a matter of being stranded. It is almost embarrassing to see a 60 year old guy acting like that just for a Youtube video.

I find it funny that people bag on the current US CCS charging environment when there is another recent post on this forum of someone driving across the entire country in their new Taycan and not having a single issue at like 30 different Electrify America charging locations.

Yup, the non-Tesla charging infrastructure is abysmal.

Evidently, you need more context on Dave, and his kid, Kyle. 100% Tesla kool aid drinkers. That is the type of people I try to avoid.

He had to take that vehicle to charge since he could not drive his Model S there and make that video. I could care less if he was charging a Genesis, a VW, a Porsche, a Ford, or a Rivian. It is all just clickbait Tesla supporting bull$hit made to appease the ones who are Musk/Jim Jones followers.

I don't believe that's true at all. Kyle loves the Taycan and has a GTS ST on order. They also own a rivian and sing both the Taycan and Rivian high praises. He has said he only drives a Model S plaid because its taking forever for him to get a Taycan. Its likely as soon as his Taycan comes in he'll get rid of the Plaid. His girlfriend owns an Audi E-tron, and Dave daily drives an ID4. So i'm not sure why there is the impression that they are tesla koolaid drinkers when they drive a wide variety of EV models.

People praise Tesla because they legitimately make good EVs. Almost everyone here is excited at the prospect of charging at a tesla supercharger because those are almost always reliable and able to charge, unlike EA. I hate Elon Musk as much as the next guy but to call anyone who compliments Tesla a elon kool-aid drinker is a bit misinformed.

Personally when i get my Taycan, superchargers for me will be a last resort because of the slower charge speed and high rates. But its always good to have more options/backup needs. I live in louisiana. There are ZERO public CCS fast charging stations north of I-10, meaning if i want to drive from Baton Rouge to Fort Collins, i'd have to first go west to houston then up instead of taking a more direct route thru Alexandria/Shreveport/Dallas because of the lack of CCS infrastructure there.

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