New Battery monitoring software update?

[Travis]

Rudolph, I think your interpretation of Chun is spot on. He admittedly makes assumptions in light of Porsches limited communication and passes it off as fact, when any reasonable calm minded adult can see it’s nothing but emotional word vomit. For example, his position that more than one supplier can’t make batteries unless they have different chemistries, capacity, designs, performance, etc. I am not saying there is more vendors or not for the Taycan battery, but it’s absolutely plausible more than one vendor exists and can manufacturer to the same spec. Take an iPhone for example, multiple display vendors for the same phone, multiple battery vendors, they are not different designs, brightness, size, etc. In the manufacturing world it is very common for multiple vendors to build the same product to identical specifications.

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[W1NGE]

Folks, let's settle down.

Do you have existing issues or has paranoia set in?

Personally, as you know, I don't and I do have the latest software patches available for my VIN.

Charged to 100% ladt night for my weekend trip to St Andrew's & made it - life is good. The Old Course is looking affie bonnie!

 

[Travis]

Agreed. Lots of fear over an issue that has not actually impacted the majority. To slander a brand over fears they “MAY NOT” back their product on an issue that hasn’t come to fruition yet is a bridge too far for me. Not someone I would want to do business with, I don’t respect that perspective, it’s very negative and pessimistic. I will never understand people who choose to go through life with that attitude.

 

[chun]

Rudolph, I think your interpretation of Chun is spot on. He admittedly makes assumptions in light of Porsches limited communication and passes it off as fact, when any reasonable calm minded adult can see it’s nothing but emotional word vomit. For example, his position that more than one supplier can’t make batteries unless they have different chemistries, capacity, designs, performance, etc. I am not saying there is more vendors or not for the Taycan battery, but it’s absolutely plausible more than one vendor exists and can manufacturer to the same spec. Take an iPhone for example, multiple display vendors for the same phone, multiple battery vendors, they are not different designs, brightness, size, etc. In the manufacturing world it is very common for multiple vendors to build the same product to identical specifications.

Yes, Porsche stating on every release of new model year that they are using LG Chem from Poland as battery provider, and naming them in every battery recall across 3 continents, is me making assumptions about what battery is in this car ) Even for j1.2 in the announcement, when mentioning the improved chemistry used for j1.2, they said it is still LG on their presentation

Also ignoring the fact that there are videos where you can see the battery being disassembled to see the actual modules, labeled with LG.

You guys are comical iPhone kids level fanboys

No, not more than one vendor can manufacture the same spec of battery, because they are patented, down to the chemistry composition level in some cases. Why would LG allow ANYONE to make their batteries, royalty free? Are you guys not having contact with the real world? These are not AAA batteries. New innovation takes place almost monthly in this field, you can dream on that companies are not patenting left and right anything they can.

And using different specs of batteries would be insanity for porsche, as they would require different configuration for every spec making it a nightmare for repairs and updates, and they would likely also result in different degradation curves making it a PR nightmare, result in different performance levels, and such.

Nobody is slandering anybody, we are simply discussing the latest information that becomes available. If the information is ridiculous in and of itself, like @GTSS being told that he can't have his battery monitored OTA without paying for a subscription, then of course we will point out it is ridiculous, as opposed to licking good ol' Porsche's balls.

If anything, you are the one making accusations about me and trying to slander me. Pathetic.


But going back to the topic, so far it's 2 people that may have a demo version of this software. Curious if you would get the "release" version of it, when the rest of the customers get it in Q2/Q3 or beyond.

 

[chun]

We’d a subscription or not, you are really jumping the gun making a claim that you know with certainty that one is required. For all you don’t know the recent update to improve OTA connection could be dealing with this very issue. You have no idea.

Addressing just this point, and ignoring your uninformed garbage and attempt at slander.

Here is the communication received by @GTSS directly from Porsche on this topic:

According to the latest information from the manufacturer, it is possible to activate online monitoring of the battery modules, i.e. online transmission of vehicle analysis logs.


Once the online transmission of vehicle analysis logs is enabled, the 80% charging limit will be removed, as the vehicle will be under constant monitoring.


To enable online transmission of vehicle analysis logs (VALs), the following conditions must be met:


Connect Store:
Porsche Connect & Connect Care must be activated


My Porsche:
A Porsche ID is required
Online updates must be enabled
The vehicle must not be in guest mode
The vehicle must not be in private mode
Product improvements must be enabled in the privacy settings (if applicable)


Additionally, the vehicle must be connected to the internet at least once every 30 days, and the connection must last at least 45 minutes in order to allow the logs to be transmitted to PAG systems.


If you need assistance with the My Porsche app and the activation of the online transmission of vehicle analysis logs, we will be happy to contact you by phone.

So we do know for a fact, that at this time, for OTA diagnosis of the battery to work, you need a paid subscription. And I have already mentioned that this may change in the future, as it is just software, in the posts that you quote without actually reading, only to then proceed to throw accusations

PSA: Apple does not use different providers for any one specific part in any one specific iPhone model. They use 1 spec of the battery, from 1 manufacturer of 1 specific design, and same applies for any given part in the iPhone. The only time they did this was for iPhone 6s, when they sourced the A9 chip from TSMC and Samsung; and it led to performance difference and big discrepancy in battery life at low tempratures, resulting in an insane amount of negative PR and even a class action lawsuit when they tried to throttle to maitain battery.

I do actually work in automation manufacturing & execution systems, and understand very well how this works, thank you

This will be my last reply at your garbage posts

 

[thefunkygibbon]

jebus. can't you all just have a conversation about all this without resorting to name calling? it really isn't that deep to justify getting worked up over

 

[Travis]

Apple 100% sources identical parts for the same phone exact phone models. They get displays from LG and Samsung for multiple models. Displays designed and patented by Apple. If you think @GTSS being told by his dealer that over the air monitoring requires a subscription is 100% fact than that’s your problem. One person who was told by someone that may or may not be right for software that may or may not be released, may be beta, and that is representative of certainty of how Porsche will proceed in every market than you are proving you have no logical discernment. I don’t talk out my ass. You are wrong so often just like your last post with your claim about Apple it’s just 100% wrong. Anyone that can read and google would know this.

 

[Travis]

https://www.patentlyapple.com/2024/...vowing-to-provide-stable-production-this.html

 

[Travis]

https://www.channelnews.com.au/appl...nst-each-other-the-chinese-are-in-the-middle/

iPhone 16e display made by BOE and Samsung. Your wrong! It’s ok to be wrong once in awhile, sad to not be able to admit it and learn. When you think you’re a master of everything you often are a master of nothing. I don’t care who makes the Taycan battery, I would not claim to know the arrangement of who designs it, manufactures the parts, assembles, owns the patents, etc. Takes high level of arrogance to think you have such intimate knowledge of everything.

 

[GTSS]

My dealer either wrote to me or told me directly what I previously stated: that, among other requirements, an active Porsche Connect subscription is necessary for OTA battery monitoring (ARB7). After receiving the initial email about this, I followed up and received confirmation. I know for a fact that I’m not making this up. It’s also very likely that my dealer is not lying — though there’s always a chance he was misinformed. Others can also reach out to their dealers to verify this.

 

[Travis]

I am not suggesting you are lying or wrong. I am saying the software is obviously not widely released. No Porsche official communication has been made. I believe it’s prudent for everyone that does not have the software installed to be patient before tearing Porsche down and their customer service to actually in fact see how their case is handled. You are 1 or 2 people with the software out of presumable 150,000 who need it. In my world, absent additional facts from Porsche, this sample size would not allow me to be confident I know how this will shake out, therefore I would hold my judgement. That’s how I roll in life, clearly others use snap and emotional judgement. I would not take advice from someone who shows a total lack of judgement in handling themselves in their dealings. This may be a technical glitch Porsche may not be able to activate the modem without a subscription. Maybe they will require a subscription and credit everyone. Who knows at this point, not us for sure!!!

 

[GTSS]

Thank you! I believe there may have been a misunderstanding. I was referring to ARB7 monitoring, not the "smoke alarm" software that we're all still waiting for. ARB7 is already widely available, but it does require an active Porsche Connect subscription.

 

[Travis]

Clearly you don’t know how “this works” , thank you ? no need to reply and accept you were wrong since you work in manufacturing and everything. You have proven to be an expert. Being wrong about Apple doesn’t really matter, but spreading misinformation and representing yourself as an expert on the Taycan is a disservice to some users who accept that when you claim something as fact when clearly it is often not. Buyer beware.

 

[chun]

Clearly you don’t know how “this works” , thank you ? no need to reply and accept you were wrong since you work in manufacturing and everything. You have proven to be an expert. Being wrong about Apple doesn’t really matter, but spreading misinformation and representing yourself as an expert on the Taycan is a disservice to some users who accept that when you claim something as fact when clearly it is often not. Buyer beware.

You are beyond help. Just because I didn't answer you, to avoid spam, doesn't mean you are right.

On what was I wrong about the taycan? Just quote. I wait.

The iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus are generally expected to feature panels supplied by Samsung Display

The iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are set to use OLED panels from LG Display

Source: Reuters.

There is no iPhone 16 PRO with with Samsung Display. Just LG, one single supplier per model.
There is no iPhone 16 with LG display, just Samsung display, one single supplier per model.

They do not use 2 manufacturer's for the same model, as I have stated previously. Why? Because they are not identical displays, and they have different specification. While similar, they are different enough, that it will lead to issues to sell them as the exact same product in an economic area, even legal issues. As it has in the past for apple.

But go on, pat yourself on the shoulder and keep spamming.

And again, as GTSS told you, currently - as in TODAY, for all 150.000 taycans sold world wide, as per latest information we have from Porsche courtuasey of GTSS, OTA battery diagnosis is only avaliable if you pay a subscription. And repeating myself for the 3rd time for you, since you won't read anyway, this may change in the future, as it is software, or it may not.

 

[Travis]

You’re wrong about Apple iPhones I provided two industry articles. You did not. You are wrong about that which is what I said and you’re a sad little person who can not admit you are wrong. To continue to state that more than one supplier do not manufacture displays for the same iPhone model shows your a fool.

I don’t care what GTSS says he was told, no offense but that would not be a reliable source of information for me since there is already so much confusion around this issue, about what software he even got. He doesn’t work for Porsche, the software is not even released to the public yet so to claim this one case is suggestive of much is a misrepresentation.

Here is another article noting multiple suppliers for iPhone 15. If you want to place some wagers on this I would be glad to give you a chance to win some money from me if you think you are correct. I will gladly take your money. Did you read these articles, what explanation do you have? Are the sites that report on Apple News wrong when they are noting the volume of various suppliers? And you’re an Apple supply and manufacturing expert in addition to Porsche. Man of many talents apparently.


https://www.macrumors.com/2023/01/04/kuo-iphone-15-displays-boe/

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