"Electrify America, EVgo Ban Non-OEM Adapters" - Article

[Tooney]

https://insideevs.com/news/682634/electrify-america-evgo-ban-adapters/

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[WasserGKuehlt]

https://insideevs.com/news/682634/electrify-america-evgo-ban-adapters/

ohgod. That means, when the time comes, I'll have to use a Porsche-made adapter to use a Tesla charger.
Cons:
- it'll cost $1,000

Pros:
- it'll work (maybe)
- can get it with deviated accents in PTS colors

(reads further)
"Although we have a policy that forbids use of unapproved adapters, we have no way to enforce"

Ah yes, the only motivation behind this: "if you fuck upsomething happens, not only we won't be held responsible, but we're coming after you for any damage."

Kidding aside, the intention is reasonable/spot-on, and something I would fully support. The expression, though, is not; it'd be like enforcing NF0 tires.. (wait..)

 

[Tooney]

That means, when the time comes, I'll have to use a Porsche-made adapter to use a Tesla charger.
Cons:
- it'll cost $1,000

Pros:
- it'll work (maybe)

- it'll work at 50% rated capacity once it is reconfigured by dealer....
The article does not mention whether Tesla superchargers require this.

 

[DougFrisk]

https://insideevs.com/news/682634/electrify-america-evgo-ban-adapters/

Was I the only one who wanted to see him daisy chain all those adapters together?

I also noticed that the wording is somewhat vague on the ban. It doesn't say the adapter has to be from your auto's manufacturer, just that it has to be made by an auto manufacturer. An opportunity for defunct brands. Looking forward to seeing the LaSalle adapter hit the market.

 

[Derip88]

ohgod. That means, when the time comes, I'll have to use a Porsche-made adapter to use a Tesla charger.
Cons:
- it'll cost $1,000

Pros:
- it'll work (maybe)
- can get it with deviated accents in PTS colors

(reads further)
"Although we have a policy that forbids use of unapproved adapters, we have no way to enforce"

Ah yes, the only motivation behind this: "if you fuck upsomething happens, not only we won't be held responsible, but we're coming after you for any damage."

Kidding aside, the intention is reasonable/spot-on, and something I would fully support. The expression, though, is not; it'd be like enforcing NF0 tires.. (wait..)

Hahahahaha 300$ for the accents though

 

[whitex]

ohgod. That means, when the time comes, I'll have to use a Porsche-made adapter to use a Tesla charger.
Cons:
- it'll cost $1,000

$1,200 if you buy with the car. $2,600 as an accessory. Defaults to half charge rate, button for full rate with big yellow warning that charging at full rate may burn your hands, burn down the charger, your car and any buildings nearby, and it will be your fault since there was a universal, pictures only sticker informing you of this.

Oh wait, that’s a Porsche Mobile Charger Connect (not really a charger, its an EVSE, but hey, it’s just words, my Taycan doesn’t have a turbo in it either).

 

[Jonathan S.]

I'll be happy to buy a Porsche-branded NACS-R <> CCS1-P adapter.
Even it costs 2x (3x? 4x?) the price of the aftermarket models that will soon be on Amazon and are probably made in the same factor.
Or the Tesla-branded version.
And I'll pay Tesla a buck for each kWh for access to those ~12k V3 250kW Superchargers!
(Please?)

But back to the original article, despite the generalized statements, this appears to affect only Tesla owners who amazingly enough are willing to put up with EA and EVgo drawbacks in return for some minor kWh savings, and who are using aftermarket NACS-P <> CCS1-R adapters instead of the reasonably priced Tesla model.

 

[bluedonkey]

Ah yes, the only motivation behind this: "if you fuck upsomething happens, not only we won't be held responsible, but we're coming after you for any damage."

Kidding aside, the intention is reasonable/spot-on, and something I would fully support. The expression, though, is not; it'd be like enforcing NF0 tires.. (wait..)

A 350kW charger can provide up to 920V and up to 500A (not at the same time - it must stay within the power envelope of 350 kW apparently). A 500kW charger can deliver 1000V at 500A. At those levels, I would want to be very sure that the adapter I was using was properly engineered. Years ago, I worked in a lab with a 400 VDC supply (for some avionics equipment) and that had a lot of big red buttons, wooden paddles to pry people off a rail, and a requirement of at least two people in the room at all times. High voltage DC is not something you want to mess with, and you want to make sure anything connected to it is engineered to make sure you can't come into contact with anything live.

I am assuming these rules are more about the fact that the automotive manufacturers will test their adapters with the networks today (the way they say they test new cars). If a long term market for adapters exists, then I suspect we will see labs set up to certify adapters, and the networks will switch that language to requiring certified adapters.

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