Miles(/km) per KwH Figures.

[ct4s]

4S CT 22MY was from 1m /kw in the winter on my 5.5 mile commute to high 2s in summer on longer journeys.
4S ST 25MY is typically 1.5 to 3.3. I’m yet to do a long drive.

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[F1Ruaraidh]

hi all,

ok so i'm still relatively new to my Taycan (3-4 weeks now i think), but reading around i'm seeing people mentioning they get 3-4 miles/kwh out of their taycan.
I'm totally baffled by this, best I can seem to achieve is about 2. goes up to about 2.2 if i put it in range mode.

This was measured during a 40 mile drive home the other day (and longer term isn't any different).
I get that there are a bunch of other factors, but I've got Aircon set to Eco. I'm not driving like a lunatic. Temp is set to 22degrees all of the time, heated seats and steering wheel are off.

Overall range on the car is about 180miles on a 90% charge according to the car (never had the opportunity to really test that for accuracy, but its supposed to "learn your driving and estimate better" after a while, without a way of "resetting" it apparently.)

Just me in the car, no luggage/extra weight.

(MY22 Turbo with 40k on the clock fwiw).

Any pointers or personal experience or your own range/miles per kwh?

Thanks

also I asked OPC to check my battery health the other day and he said it was good at about 86% (although he said it was plus/minus 10% accuracy which didn't really fill me with any confidence in the test)

Same. It's dreadful. Can drive like my Gran and it's never better than 450Wh/mile. Just draggy and inefficient powertrain. CT Turbo S.

 

[gtm]

Florida, so warmer and flat. Usually 2.8 miles/kWh to 3.2. This was on a mid 70F, very flat, minimal stop lights drive in the Florida Keys. 4.16 miles/kWh. Slow and stead and the car is pretty efficient. The trip data seems to reflect reality pretty closely. The lifetime statistic of 3.6 miles/kWh shown in the app is total fiction. Probably around 3.0 out in the real world. 20" Pirelli Cinturato P7 Blue, pressures at spec.

 

[thefunkygibbon]

I did a longer 60 mile drive along mostly single carriageways at the weekend and managed to get a better 3kw/kWh which i guess is more in keeping with other people's . weather wasn't amazing (prob like 13degrees) so heating was on in the car too

 

[W1NGE]

My view is that with the current battery tech of both J1.1 and J1.2 the range will always be "meh" in Europe (typically lower ambients for the most part). J1.2 brought additional range largely due to the increase in useable battery capacity.

If you want the most economical / energy efficient Taycan then get the entry model. As soon as you go AWD then GTS then Turbo then Turbos the range will automatically suffer before you turn a wheel at any time of year. These are high performance machines in general and so require bigger motors which will consume more energy.

It's no mistake that there is a base Taycan and a base Macan EV both of which are rear wheel drive only to ensure that have a range topping model to tick a variety of boxes.

To compare a J1.2 Turbo to a J1.2 RWD is looking for trouble really given the former can provide up to 884 PS compared to 435 PS. Impressively however, given almost twice the power output the range (WLTP) only "suffers" by 30 miles. What the real world range for both cars would be I'm not entirely sure but might be an interesting comparison to make and my guess is that single motor variants will extend that range differential more than we might expect. Extend this comparison on a yearly basis to see how much range is lost to battery degradation might be another eye-opener.

 

[DSB]

I'm lucky that i can do 95%+ of my charging at home or a private network charger, so consumption is interesting rather than a concern for me. That said my numbers were about 2.2 m/kwh this winter (in the early January cold spell it was down at 1.8), currently 2.7 ish and last summer on those rare warm days was getting 3.2.

 

[thefunkygibbon]

Doesn't the car have a way to "precondition" the batteries to make sure they are optimal temperature for charging? Can't the same be done for getting the batteries to the optimal temp for best power consumption?

 

[f1eng]

Doesn't the car have a way to "precondition" the batteries to make sure they are optimal temperature for charging? Can't the same be done for getting the batteries to the optimal temp for best power consumption?

If you preheat the cabin the data I have shows the battery is also preheated which gives better performance and consumption once you are going, but, of course, a considerable percentage of the battery capacity to achieve, so only a gain if you are plugged into the mains, and the preheating can take more power than you get from the mains, so you still end up depleting the battery.

 

[thefunkygibbon]

wow. I had no idea that preheating the cabin had that much of a drain on the battery to be still a drain whilst charging at 7kw!

so does the battery get heated even if the cabin reached temp? ie 22deg is what I usually have it at, obviously in the UK that still involves heating a bit to get to that , but once it does, does the battery stop getting the heat too,

 

[f1eng]

wow. I had no idea that preheating the cabin had that much of a drain on the battery to be still a drain whilst charging at 7kw!

so does the battery get heated even if the cabin reached temp? ie 22deg is what I usually have it at, obviously in the UK that still involves heating a bit to get to that , but once it does, does the battery stop getting the heat too,

The electric heater is a 10kW device, no idea under what conditions the full power is used. The A/C may be similar or more (back in the day I remember A/C units taking over 30 bhp from the motor, hence the eco setting).
The preheat is timed at 1 hour which is way more than is needed to pre-heat/cool the cabin but probably needed to heat 600kg of battery.

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