Refurbished air schock absorbers

[Taycanistra]

I need to share this with you.They are only company in Europa like I know, that can change broken air springs on Taycan.The price was correct (800€ for the both SA).Fast UPS shipping.Comunication via whatsapp also good.And job done very well.Thsnk you air auto group!

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[ovonrein]

Thanks. Great to know. What age were the old ones you replaced?

 

[Taycanistra]

Thanks. Great to know. What age were the old ones you replaced?

12/21

 

[prj]

For the fronts, always ask if suspension firmness setting still works.
Many of these companies put in a normal shock absorber inside and connect the wires to a resistor ...
Even a larger company (Arnott) does this.

The front strut has both the air suspension function for adjusting ride height as well as a shock absorber built in for adjusting ride firmness.

 

[Taycanistra]

Thea checked everything.Not that just have changed air springs.They have changed also dust protectors for example.

 

[prj]

Thea checked everything.Not that just have changed air springs.They have changed also dust protectors for example.

This has nothing to do with what I wrote nor with the air spring. There are plenty who can change the air spring and associated parts, the problem is with the adjustable shock absorber and the inability of the majority to service or replace it while keeping the adjustment function.

 

[Taycanistra]

This has nothing to do with what I wrote nor with the air spring. There are plenty who can change the air spring and associated parts, the problem is with the adjustable shock absorber and the inability of the majority to service or replace it while keeping the adjustment function.

But I didn't have any isue with that.Just air leaking.Also they give me warranty 2 years on air springs,so I don't need to worry.Without air is imposible to drive.When it is not enough hard,you can still drive.

 

[prj]

But I didn't have any isue with that.Just air leaking.Also they give me warranty 2 years on air springs,so I don't need to worry.Without air is imposible to drive.When it is not enough hard,you can still drive.

I am just warning about potentially compromising suspension and saying that you should always ask about the shock absorber situation when using any of these companies.

 

[ovonrein]

@prj https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/air-suspension-problems.32313/#post-491564

Evidence that Porsche is no different from BMW? To my mind, it is in the nature of the beast (material). Would certainly love to learn if anyone managed to get (extended) Porsche warranty to pay up for a 4-year old air spring.

EDIT: A related question might be to which extent I compromise (or void?) my Porsche warranty by replacing air springs away from Porsche. I suspect that the cost savings are material. (That was already true with my BMW.)

 

[prj]

@prj https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/air-suspension-problems.32313/#post-491564

Evidence that Porsche is no different from BMW? To my mind, it is in the nature of the beast (material). Would certainly love to learn if anyone managed to get (extended) Porsche warranty to pay up for a 4-year old air spring.

EDIT: A related question might be to which extent I compromise (or void?) my Porsche warranty by replacing air springs away from Porsche. I suspect that the cost savings are material. (That was already true with my BMW.)

What are you talking about? He doesn't have any warranty. His car is not Porsche Approved. If he had they would have been replaced under warranty.

 

[Taycanistra]

I am just warning about potentially compromising suspension and saying that you should always ask about the shock absorber situation when using any of these companies.

They are company for shock absorbers.Why do you think that they have didn't test it?We have talked on whatsapp,and after control,they said all what it should be done.Not only air springs.Also they ask detaily how it happens and what the car have done.Also if was repaired before and blabla bla.

 

[prj]

They are company for shock absorbers.Why do you think that they have didn't test it?We have talked on whatsapp,and after control,they said all what it should be done.Not only air springs.Also they ask detaily how it happens and what the car have done.Also if was repaired before and blabla bla.

I have 20 years in this industry, what I am telling you is widespread in the refurbishment of VAG adaptive air suspension.
You do not seem to understand what is inside the unit.

On the front axle there is a shock absorber and an air spring inside. You're calling them interchangeably whereas these are two separate components integrated into one unit.
On the rear axle they are separate - separate shock absorber and air spring.

Almost all of these companies can fix the air spring part of the unit, but when the shock absorber fails they usually fit a new one without the electronic valve control and put a resistor inside so there is no error code. I am not saying all of them, but most of them.

The result is it works but you can not adjust the firmness of the suspension on the front axle anymore, so nothing changes in firmness from normal to sport, to sport plus, only the height. They usually also don't tell you anything about it unless you specifically ask. In your case if only the air spring was damaged and they didn't touch the shock absorber then you probably don't have the issue, since nothing changed there.

This is a wide problem and has been going on ever since these services started being offered. Always ask if the shock absorber part retains it's electronic damping control after the work is performed, not just the height adjustment in the air spring. End of story.

 

[Taycanistra]

I have 20 years in this industry, what I am telling you is widespread in the refurbishment of VAG adaptive air suspension.
You do not seem to understand what is inside the unit.

On the front axle there is a shock absorber and an air spring inside. You're calling them interchangeably whereas these are two separate components integrated into one unit.
On the rear axle they are separate - separate shock absorber and air spring.

Almost all of these companies can fix the air spring part of the unit, but when the shock absorber fails they usually fit a new one without the electronic valve control and put a resistor inside so there is no error code. I am not saying all of them, but most of them.

The result is it works but you can not adjust the firmness of the suspension on the front axle anymore, so nothing changes in firmness from normal to sport, to sport plus, only the height. They usually also don't tell you anything about it unless you specifically ask. In your case if only the air spring was damaged and they didn't touch the shock absorber then you probably don't have the issue, since nothing changed there.

This is a wide problem and has been going on ever since these services started being offered. Always ask if the shock absorber part retains it's electronic damping control after the work is performed, not just the height adjustment in the air spring. End of story.

I understand you.Also that what you say isn't correct.Spare parts for this shock absorbers don't exist.How they fix some things,only God knows.So like I told you.I know that for Taycan shock absorbers exist only one company which can fix it and that is this.I asked on lits of companys and Porsche jzst change completly shock absorber.Also I found someone in Bosnia who said that has allready fixed Taycan shock absorbers,but he ask 1000€ for one.Also i know how Taycan works with shock absorbers.I will fix air springs alone,but imposible to find peaces.Only universal air spring,but you need to kniw all dimensions exactly,what I don't know.My Taycan hasn't had isues with electronic.Only air leacking.

 

[prj]

I understand you.Also that what you say isn't correct.Spare parts for this shock absorbers don't exist.How they fix some things,only God knows.So like I told you.I know that for Taycan shock absorbers exist only one company which can fix it and that is this.I asked on lits of companys and Porsche jzst change completly shock absorber.Also I found someone in Bosnia who said that has allready fixed Taycan shock absorbers,but he ask 1000€ for one.Also i know how Taycan works with shock absorbers.I will fix air springs alone,but imposible to find peaces.Only universal air spring,but you need to kniw all dimensions exactly,what I don't know.My Taycan hasn't had isues with electronic.Only air leacking.

You are still using the wrong terms, and you do not understand.
What I say is 100% correct and has been correct for over 15 years.

There was nothing wrong with your dampers, you had an air spring failure. Inside your suspension strut where both are contained.
The air springs exist aftermarket and can be adapted, of course you will not find them in the parts catalogue, but Chinese marketplace is quite big. Just search on aliexpress for "Taycan Front Strut" you will have a lot of matches. And this is also how yours got fixed. Nothing to do with God or Religion when the Chinese make the spare parts.

The problem is not fixing the air springs, which was done now, but fixing the dampers, where you had no damage. You can adapt an aftermarket damper, but you lose the CDC function.

Try to make the difference between these three items:
1. Damper
2. Air Spring
3. Suspension strut.

1 + 2 = 3 in case of front suspension. You are talking the entire time about 2, I am saying there is a problem with 1 when fixed by most of these companies.

You sent your suspension struts somewhere, they fixed the air springs in them, that's it...
The question is what happens during damper failure, and usually they just put a static damper in there so you lose electronic damper control of the compression and rebound. The air suspension level control still works.

 

[ovonrein]

What are you talking about? He doesn't have any warranty. His car is not Porsche Approved. If he had they would have been replaced under warranty.

I am talking of two things: 1 my expectation that these shocks will die on me soon (you contradicted in thread linked; OP seems to support); 2 *my* (extended) warranty (which, following your logic, should cough up; I however doubt will).

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