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  1. New Porsche EV concept to debut at IAA

    if it can’t compete with a Model 3, it’ll be humiliating. Not sure they can hold back the leaks in the dam much longer. There’s only so much Porsche can do about it’s classic platforms. They should let this go and leave the 911 to be the funnest supercar not the fastest.
  2. Would you consider a Hydrogen Fuel cell car?

    it’s a little difficult to compare, but back of the napkin looks about 5x more expensive than hydrogen. Maybe it does get a lot cheaper, that‘s a dream, but still all bleeding edge science stuff for now. we have decades of experience with H2 in flight. We call them rockets. Only SpaceX uses...
  3. Would you consider a Hydrogen Fuel cell car?

    you mean like this ? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-hydrogen-southkorea-insight-idUSKBN1W936A nuked a soccer field sized chunk, killed 2, one was blasted away. Yeah, I want one of these in my neighborhood.
  4. Would you consider a Hydrogen Fuel cell car?

    synthetic fuels are far far more expensive than hydrogen. We haven’t seen much progress towards electrifying large shipping vessels. Not saying it has to be hydrogen but there might be a useful niche here and in heavy industry airplanes are challenging for battery volume and weight. and...
  5. Would you consider a Hydrogen Fuel cell car?

    https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a36003212/hydrogen-mirai-california-shortage/ ... I'm all for cool tech, but Hydrogen had its chance and the auto makers basically fucked around until they were overtaken by lithium ion batteries.
  6. Would you consider a Hydrogen Fuel cell car?

    Hydrogen will never work for consumer transportation. We might see a different story for large shipping or airplanes, but it's fundamentally retarded for automobiles. Hydrogen was something to do if EVs couldn't work out. EVs have, and that's that. Hydrogen is expensive, volatile, and very...
  7. How long is the wait before lock in date?

    this is normal in the sense that you are waiting on your dealer to get a build slot from Porsche and then to give that to you instead of someone else on their waiting list. you don’t have an order, you have a wait list position. You can ask your SA for an update. I wouldn’t pester them...
  8. EV Cost of ownership ?

    My wife’s Tesla has required: 1 new set of tires in 3 years and some very minor warranty covered items. It’s basically maintenance free beyond consumables. it doesn’t look anything like my ICE ownership costs. oil changes. Hoses get old and brittle. Sensors fail. Gaskets. Spark plugs...
  9. Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    wtf ? I think you need a new lambo dealer. Sounds bullshit. If that’s true about the warranty, then I just freed up a slot on the bucket list. have you considered … any other supercar manufacturer ?
  10. Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    this. I think we see 4 motor power trains come down to super car price levels in less than 10 years. I’m really interested in the handling and dynamics changes that are possible with 4 in wheel independent motors like the Drako...
  11. Scared to ask... anyone tempted by Model S Plaid?

    We need some folks here to actually drive them and post.
  12. Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    Eh. I’ve been doing that for … long time. Nothing goes on the dash. Ever. One of my college buddies insisted it was a stupid rule. Well, until I intentionally sent the pennies he left there into his face. Lesson learned. it’s been at least 20 years since sports cars had more power than...
  13. Taycan stolen

    Most stolen cars around here are damaged. Joy rides tend to be full GTA and often used in other crimes. I’d look extra hard…
  14. Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    Modern automotive platforms are massive multi-year undertakings requiring huge amounts of capital. I don’t think there’s anything particularly wrong with the taycan. It was state of the art in 2019. The model 3 was in 2017. The model S in 2012. The plaid is in 2021. It took Tesla 2 years...
  15. Taycan Turbo S vs. Model S Plaid - really by this much!?

    The taycan J1 architecture was designed to compete with the model S of 2015. The plaid has 50% more motors. Tesla has its issues, but they do know how to build a damn fine EV powertrain
  16. Taycan stolen

    +1000
  17. Taycan stolen

    Doesn’t matter. If it’s not recovered immediately, you don’t want it back. You have no idea what they’ve done with it, how they trashed it, abused it, or if they involved it in other crimes. lawyer time. Hopefully the dealer shrugs and has their insurance just bite the bullet. having your...
  18. Taycan stolen

    this. Plus I’d push on the dealer to repay your deductible and any gap between the insurance and a replacement. Oh, and actually help get you a new car. They should be ashamed.
  19. They either misspent most of it or they have been had... but the investment Porsche makes on electronics does not correspond with the results !

    good software is a LOT harder than it appears. anybody can pour paint onto canvas. Doesn’t make them a renowned artist. Really, same is true for pretty much every world class expertise. anybody can drive. Not gonna make a career in racing.
  20. They either misspent most of it or they have been had... but the investment Porsche makes on electronics does not correspond with the results !

    It’s not just how much you spend. It’s how your prioritize the function internally. Politically, financially, knowledge chassis development includes the Porsche GT racing division with a decades long history of world class competition. Software includes … contracting to rando auto suppliers...





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