EVs v ICE long term durability

[JimBob]

Are any of the current EV's going to be as desirable as many ICE cars in 30 years. I doubt it. I don't think they have the romance about them as many of the old ICE cars do.

EV's as nice as they may be, just do not have that "je ne sais quoi". Gotta love the French for this one.

Bottom line they are just ultimately discardable technology.

If you think there is one out there now that fits the bill, let me know, and I will buy one and put it in a barn for 30 years.

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[Fish Fingers]

Are any of the current EV's going to be as desirable as many ICE cars in 30 years. I doubt it. I don't think they have the romance about them as many of the old ICE cars do.

EV's as nice as they may be, just do not have that "je ne sais quoi". Gotta love the French for this one.

Bottom line they are just ultimately discardable technology.

If you think there is one out there now that fits the bill, let me know, and I will buy one and put it in a barn for 30 years.

My friend has bought two V12 Ferrari's and done just that.
He's not even driven them.

He also bought a container full (about 30) of motocross bikes which he said were 'best of breed' a few years ago too.

He also bought a gin company for buttons just before it became popular.

He doesnt often make a bad call.

 

[Torv]

The Taycan is my first EV and I know very little about them from a long term durability perspective.

Especially compared to ICE cars that I have been used to.

I am guessing that enough people have now had EVs (Teslas?) longer term and may have some input on this.

I appreciate the batteries start to degrade on an EV, but you don't have things like clutch wear / timing belt changes etc.

Also interested in longer term servicing / running costs.

Just out of interest really - so any experiences / input welcome.

Thanks

There is so much less mechanical complexity with an EV, I suspect that an EV will easily outlast and be more reliable than an ICE vehicle.

No tune ups, no oil changes, no radiator, no pistons or valves, no transmission to speak of. The maintenance costs for an EV are far less expensive than an ICE. Granted an EV is governed by complex electronics and computers, but those components can be simply and easily addressed and maintained via software and firmware updates.

So, say in 10 years or so the main battery requires replacement and assuming it costs $20000, I still believe I’m way ahead economically given that I’m not spending an average of at least $3000/yr for the maintenance of an ICE vehicle, especially if that ICE vehicle is comparable to a Taycan like a 911.

I may be naive here, and I doubt I’ll have the Taycan I have now in 5 years given the crazy progress EVs are making, but from a pure economic standpoint, I think EVs will prove to be far less costly to maintain and far more reliable than an ICE.

 

[JimBob]

There is so much less mechanical complexity with an EV, I suspect that an EV will easily outlast and be more reliable than an ICE vehicle.

No tune ups, no oil changes, no radiator, no pistons or valves, no transmission to speak of. The maintenance costs for an EV are far less expensive than an ICE. Granted an EV is governed by complex electronics and computers, but those components can be simply and easily addressed and maintained via software and firmware updates.

So, say in 10 years or so the main battery requires replacement and assuming it costs $20000, I still believe I’m way ahead economically given that I’m not spending an average of at least $3000/yr for the maintenance of an ICE vehicle, especially if that ICE vehicle is comparable to a Taycan like a 911.

I may be naive here, and I doubt I’ll have the Taycan I have now in 5 years given the crazy progress EVs are making, but from a pure economic standpoint, I think EVs will prove to be far less costly to maintain and far more reliable than an ICE.

I think there is a problem with that logic. Porsche needs to make money and their ecosystem can't exist on a 2 year service interval. So get ready to pay an annual subscription fee for everything they think they can get away with.

 

[f1eng]

no radiator

There are radiators and the cooling system is much more complex on an EV than an IC engined car and more difficult because the required temperature is lower.

The motors need cooling, hence the very short period of overboost, and the battery temperature range for good performance and life is quite narrow so not an easy system to control.

Everything else I agree

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