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Random thoughts taking in the announcement:
  • Finally a Taycan which can beat Model S Plaid (which costs less than a base trim rwd Taycan) around a track, though still not in 0-60
  • No Cross/Sport Turismo options
  • Only trim with working aero scarf (standard on gen1 taycan except for Turbo S)
  • Why isn’t the “no back seat” version a 2 door hatchback?
  • Extra power still locked behind launch mode, and now additional push-to-pass and attack modes. Specs only mention launch mode for max power, so the others might be less.
  • That giant spoiler can’t be good for range. Is additional down force really needed with such a heavy vehicle?
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wonder if they used the Tesla Supechargers @ Laguna Seca to fast charge between attempts - :p
Technically possible, charge the F150 lightening from SC, then use the F150 to charge the Taycan via Level 2 AC inverter, or if creative, the power-to-grid capability of the F150.
 
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I know right…I can’t believe they made that standard on all variants. As a matter of fact, they should offer the Weissach one-sided manual charge cover as an option on all models.
Hmm. I’ll keep the two so I can still charge when one fails….
 


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Random thoughts taking in the announcement:
  • Finally a Taycan which can beat Model S Plaid (which costs less than a base trim rwd Taycan) around a track, though still not in 0-60
  • No Cross/Sport Turismo options
  • Only trim with working aero scarf (standard on gen1 taycan except for Turbo S)
  • Why isn’t the “no back seat” version a 2 door hatchback?
  • Extra power still locked behind launch mode, and now additional push-to-pass and attack modes. Specs only mention launch mode for max power, so the others might be less.
  • That giant spoiler can’t be good for range. Is additional down force really needed with such a heavy vehicle?
Random followups:

Really wish people would stop making the Tsla comparison; there isn’t one.

Air scarf: I’m really perplexed as to why they did that; making the powered charge ports standard across the line, knowing it interrupts airflow [unless the engineers know something we don’t.]

Why no coupe? Because they would be in danger of having the first GT coupe in 30 years. Wouldn’t wanna break their track record of dissing buyers who want one.

I don’t think the extra power would even be needed to be honest considering the massive amount of power it has already. [Do these cars even need sport modes?]

Wish the wing was removable. A nod to the GT2 Porsche forgot to build this time around.
 


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Really wish people would stop making the Tsla comparison; there isn’t one.
A lot of people are comparing it. Same size, 4 door EV sedan, which until now beat Porsche offering both around the track and in a straight line. I am honestly surprised that the Taycan GT only beat the Plaid by a third of a second 2.69% around Laguna Seca, given Porsche claims the Taycan GT has more power (and they’ve always claimed better handling). Evidently the Plaid is not that much worse as far as handling around the track then.

So same size, roughly the same performance, same propulsion type, more than 2x-3x price difference. Of course people will continue to compare.

EDIT: Correction above, it's not a third of a second, it's 3.33% less time around the track. Thanks @Vercingetorix .
 
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A lot of people are comparing it. Same size, 4 door EV sedan, which until now beat Porsche offering both around the track and in a straight line. I am honestly surprised that the Taycan GT only beat the Plaid by a third of a second around Laguna Seca, given Porsche claims the Taycan GT has more power (and they’ve always claimed better handling). Evidently the Plaid is not that much worse as far as handling around the track then.

So same size, roughly the same performance, same propulsion type, more than 2x-3x price difference. Of course people will continue to compare.
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A lot of people are comparing it. Same size, 4 door EV sedan, which until now beat Porsche offering both around the track and in a straight line. I am honestly surprised that the Taycan GT only beat the Plaid by a third of a second around Laguna Seca, given Porsche claims the Taycan GT has more power (and they’ve always claimed better handling). Evidently the Plaid is not that much worse as far as handling around the track then.

So same size, roughly the same performance, same propulsion type, more than 2x-3x price difference. Of course people will continue to compare.
It’s not a third of a second.
  • Driver Lars Kern set a new lap record of 1:27.87, beating the previous record of 1.30.3.
  • One rarely thinks of time in measurements of a minute and a half, unless maybe you're holding a plank at the gym, or microwaving popcorn. For Porsche development driver Lars Kern, 1.30.3 was filling his waking hours and haunting his dreams, because it was the time to beat for Porsche to nab the electric production-car lap record for WeatherTech Raceway Laguna Seca. The 1.30.3 record was set in a Tesla Model S Plaid at Laguna Seca in 2020, and while electric cars have gone faster around the track since then, nobody has done a quicker lap in an unmodified production car on production tires. That was Kern's and Porsche's goal with the new Taycan Turbo GT.
 

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There Is No Substitute
That is what Tesla fanboys say about Tesla (and BMW fanboys about BMW, and Nio fanboys about Nio, etc.). We all make our choices, based on what is important to us (and what we can afford) - to some it's the brand or name, to others it's the colors, others look at track or off-road capabilities, or fuel efficiency, luggage space, towing capacity, what brands their idols drive, etc, etc. Different customers, different priorities.
 

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Random thoughts taking in the announcement:
  • Finally a Taycan which can beat Model S Plaid (which costs less than a base trim rwd Taycan) around a track, though still not in 0-60
  • No Cross/Sport Turismo options
  • Only trim with working aero scarf (standard on gen1 taycan except for Turbo S)
  • Why isn’t the “no back seat” version a 2 door hatchback?
  • Extra power still locked behind launch mode, and now additional push-to-pass and attack modes. Specs only mention launch mode for max power, so the others might be less.
  • That giant spoiler can’t be good for range. Is additional down force really needed with such a heavy vehicle?
Until Hypera enters the fray
 

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Why on earth would anyone take a 5,300 lb 4-door GT that is probably the best combination of performance and luxury of any car on earth, and strip it of all it's non-essential options to create a 5,000 lb track focused GT???

The Taycan is NOT a track car. It wasn't initially designed as one, and I really don't understand the thinking here. Other than having bragging rights, why would anyone buy the 'Weissach GT' version of this car??
Bragging rights is at the heart of many high-end car sales. Especially in my neighborhood. I think you nailed it.

I am soooo glad I bought my Taycan in this generation model because although its not the fastest EV, its the best combination of price, luxury and performance, and I couldn't justify paying a penny more for it.
 
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...though still not in 0-60
I bet it will as Tesla is always lying with the 0-x figures, including rollout, dragstrip surface etc. and Porsche usually claims very conservative low stacking / sandbagging numbers.
it does not make sense to talk about the price, Porsche is IWC and Tesla is Casio.
This did not change the last 20+ years (with other competitors e.g. Corvette, Nissan etc)
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