Just used a Tesla Supercharger for the first time

[daveo4EV]

Any idea how to see which Tesla supercharge can charge other car using j1772 in the US?
I upload a few App but I can't see any option to filter it.

the Tesla app will show you Tesla Supercharger locations that curently have the required "magicdock" retrofit

tap - charge my non-Tesla EV
a map appears - and will show you Tesla Supercharger Locations that currently allow charging of your Taycan

the adapter they are providing is called the "magicdock" - and it must be physically installed by Tesla at a site for that site to support charging non-Tesla's

I personally would prefer the ability to purchase a magicDock adapter for me to carry in my vehicle - this would allow me to use any Supercharger location without the need for tesla to retrofit the stations - Tesla could still maintain control of which sites support non-Tesla's via the existing requirement to start a charging session via the app (i.e. they still have control if they do not allow charging at certain sites via their app)…

it is essentially a CCS adapter - which is the connector type your Taycan uses for FastCharging

J-1772 is used for North America AC "slow" L1/L2 charging - and is a separate "thing" from CCS and plays no role in fast charging

the Tesla app's built in map shows current locations you can use.

as of the date/time of this posting there are

• 2 locations in California (Scott's Valley & Placerville)
• 9 locations in New York state
• of the 11 sites deployed so far Tesla has put the magicDock on all the stalls at a given site, not just "some" stalls at a given site - it's unclear if this will continue
• no other locations are currently indicated by the Tesla app as supporting the magicdock - stay tuned for future updates.
• Tesla has agreed to support at least 20% of their network by end of calendar year 2024
  • 20% number is also ambiguous - 20% by site count - or 20% by stall count? (some sites have 80 stalls - other sites have 6 stalls - 12-24 stalls is pretty common)
• no announcements have been made as to where/when/how-many sites Tesla ultimately plans to support
• the app is your best/most-accurate source of information
• cords are too short at most Tesla sites to easily park non-Tesla's - so some creative parking is required to gain access to the cords
  • some Tesla sites have "side" located stalls - these work well for non-Tesla's
• Tesla V4 superchargers have better integration of the MagicDock - and longer cables - some Tesla V4 superchargers are already in limited deployment and testing in the wild
  • it's unclear if V4 is limited to 400V - they may support 800/900V charging - we will have to see how this plays out
• if you do not have the 400V/150 kW option for your Taycan you will be limited to a 50 kW charge rate at Tesla Urban/V2/V3 superchargers
  • Urban Superchargers are only 72 kW in any case so 50 kW limit is no big deal.
  • it's unclear if V4 superchargers will support 800/900 V charging which could in theory drive a Taycan @ 270 kW - mmmm - fast charging.

Elon's plans in this space are unclear - the govt. botched the negotiation job and I ahve no idea why they were let off the hook at 20% - it's also unclear if there are any plans or requirements beyond the end of 2024 - it's just stupid it's not universal as a requirement and frankly all EV charging sites should support all EV's - period - full stop - Rivian is being similarlly silly in that their EV fast chargers only support Rivians - unless you are providing your own power grid for these sites you should be required to support all EV's if you're attached to the public grid…

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