Refurbished air schock absorbers

[Taycanistra]

You are still using the wrong terms, and you do not understand.
What I say is 100% correct and has been correct for over 15 years.

There was nothing wrong with your dampers, you had an air spring failure. Inside your suspension strut where both are contained.
The air springs exist aftermarket and can be adapted, of course you will not find them in the parts catalogue, but Chinese marketplace is quite big. Just search on aliexpress for "Taycan Front Strut" you will have a lot of matches. And this is also how yours got fixed. Nothing to do with God or Religion when the Chinese make the spare parts.

The problem is not fixing the air springs, which was done now, but fixing the dampers, where you had no damage. You can adapt an aftermarket damper, but you lose the CDC function.

Try to make the difference between these three items:
1. Damper
2. Air Spring
3. Suspension strut.

1 + 2 = 3 in case of front suspension. You are talking the entire time about 2, I am saying there is a problem with 1 when fixed by most of these companies.

You sent your suspension struts somewhere, they fixed the air springs in them, that's it...
The question is what happens during damper failure, and usually they just put a static damper in there so you lose electronic damper control of the compression and rebound. The air suspension level control still works.

I understand very good what you mean.Thanks.If they give 2 years of warranty,they are for sure not chinese.Because they have two possibilities.One with one year warranty and two with two year warranty.So two different.Maybe they are both from China,but that isn't my problem if I have warranty on that what is done.If you says that I have issue with electronic,why doesn't shows in PIWIS?

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[Taycanistra]

I am talking of two things: 1 my expectation that these shocks will die on me soon (you contradicted in thread linked; OP seems to support); 2 *my* (extended) warranty (which, following your logic, should cough up; I however doubt will).

We will see.I hope that you will not get that problems.Why you think that they will die soon?

 

[ovonrein]

Why you think that they will die soon?

My Taycan is a MY22. And all my previous BMWs periodically needed new air springs. Their rubber ages and becomes brittle. Price you pay for a magic carpet ride. (I read some Chinese company was achieving a comparable ride with magnetic springs - if true, might eliminate the need for air springs.)

 

[prj]

I understand very good what you mean.Thanks.If they give 2 years of warranty,they are for sure not chinese.Because they have two possibilities.One with one year warranty and two with two year warranty.So two different.Maybe they are both from China,but that isn't my problem if I have warranty on that what is done.If you says that I have issue with electronic,why doesn't shows in PIWIS?

Just because it is Chinese does not mean it's going to fail.

When you get aftermarket/refurbished struts with the damper control removed, they put a resistor inside. The suspension unit sees the correct resistance value and no fault code is shown, but there is no damper stiffness adjustment anymore.
Same logic as putting resistors instead of airbags - maybe you have heard about that at least?

If your dampers were not damaged then you will not have any issues, since they probably only replaced the air spring part.
However when dampers are damaged then in case of most suppliers the damping control wasn't intact anymore. Only one that I found was Bilstein, but of course this is not available for the Taycan (yet).

I am talking of two things: 1 my expectation that these shocks will die on me soon (you contradicted in thread linked; OP seems to support); 2 *my* (extended) warranty (which, following your logic, should cough up; I however doubt will).

It is really not common to have issues with air suspension on VAG/PAG vehicles on the generation after 2010 in the first 10 years.
My Audi S8 has the original struts, and it is almost 14 years old. Used in winter in -20C and in summer. No leaks.
OP probably hit a massive pothole to damage it or some other problem. The Big Money Waste cars have more problems.

As for warranty, I had suspension components changed on my Taycan under Porsche Approved. So you can doubt whatever you want. Suspension failure at low mileage is not wear and tear.

 

[Taycanistra]

When you get aftermarket/refurbished struts with the damper control removed, they put a resistor inside. The suspension unit sees the correct resistance value and no fault code is shown, but there is no damper stiffness adjustment anymore.
Same logic as putting resistors instead of airbags - maybe you have heard about that at least?

You want to say that they do as default?Even if the damper control is complete without issues?

 

[prj]

You want to say that they do as default?Even if the damper control is complete without issues?

Usually if the damper works then they don't touch it. But it happens also that the dampers fail, and then when the customer sends it for repair, it is repaired, but inside is no longer an electrically adjustable damper. And these companies don't mention that...

Or many have an exchange program where they have "refurbished struts" already in stock, you send yours, and you get back a "refurbished" directly but with the electronic damper control inoperable.
I ran a car repair shop for over a decade, so I've seen a lot of it.

From the large manufacturers notably Arnott used to sell whole strut assemblies with the electronic damping inoperable and it was only a small writing that electronic damping adjustment will not work anymore...
But I think they have been offering now electronically controlled damper replacement in the past year.

Just do due diligence and always ask the company what happens to the dampers and electronic damper control. Nobody wants a Taycan where sport plus does not adjust the ride firmness.

 

[Taycanistra]

Usually if the damper works then they don't touch it. But it happens also that the dampers fail, and then when the customer sends it for repair, it is repaired, but inside is no longer an electrically adjustable damper. And these companies don't mention that...

Or many have an exchange program where they have "refurbished struts" already in stock, you send yours, and you get back a "refurbished" directly but with the electronic damper control inoperable.
I ran a car repair shop for over a decade, so I've seen a lot of it.

From the large manufacturers notably Arnott used to sell whole strut assemblies with the electronic damping inoperable and it was only a small writing that electronic damping adjustment will not work anymore...
But I think they have been offering now electronically controlled damper replacement in the past year.

Just do due diligence and always ask the company what happens to the dampers and electronic damper control. Nobody wants a Taycan where sport plus does not adjust the ride firmness.

Thanks man!I will do that.

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