Salary sacrifice 4s vs Turbo

[WuffvonTrips]

Hi WVT,

Please accept my apologies for such a tardy reply, life has a terrible habit of getting in the way!

I was impressed with it on the test drive (admittedly it was teeming with rain) and particularly 0-30 with that instant electric response. It’s in subsequent use that I find it’s all a bit lacking in drama and soul so that I’m either emotionally blind to how rapid it is or it’s really just lacking a bit of something. Not in any way to denigrate it but for me I think the turbo would be able to elicit a bit more of a primal response from me rather than the “yeah, ok, that’s fine” I feel a lot of the time.

As said, it’s very subjective and intellectually I understand it’s very quick. I just wish it made a bit more of it I suppose. Hard to nail down the bit that’s missing for me.

Never apologize for having a life in the real world outside this forum ?

I'm now on day 8 with my Turbo and have been driving around for no reason other than enjoyment, but my suspicion that I am becoming acclimated to the performance is now confirmed- I've gone from being intimidated from using full throttle in a 4S demonstrator run (I found the sensation off-putting, like I might feint if I kept my foot down ?), to now being relaxed doing successive launches in the Turbo. The movement of the world and other vehicles makes it clear that that the acceleration is epic, but the drama has diminished...maybe we really are living in The Matrix! So my point being that, at least in my case, the initial "high" (for better or worse) can't be matched without taking a bigger hit...it could be a dangerous and expensive path to take ?

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[MrB]

Never apologize for having a life in the real world outside this forum ?

I'm now on day 8 with my Turbo and have been driving around for no reason other than enjoyment, but my suspicion that I am becoming acclimated to the performance is now confirmed- I've gone from being intimidated from using full throttle in a 4S demonstrator run (I found the sensation off-putting, like I might feint if I kept my foot down ?), to now being relaxed doing successive launches in the Turbo. The movement of the world and other vehicles makes it clear that that the acceleration is epic, but the drama has diminished...maybe we really are living in The Matrix! So my point being that, at least in my case, the initial "high" (for better or worse) can't be matched without taking a bigger hit...it could be a dangerous and expensive path to take ?

Oddly, I find that reassuring and I’m able to dial down on the self-flagellation for not having gone Turbo!

Cheers!

 

[Porsche-Guru]

Hi WVT,

Please accept my apologies for such a tardy reply, life has a terrible habit of getting in the way!

I was impressed with it on the test drive (admittedly it was teeming with rain) and particularly 0-30 with that instant electric response. It’s in subsequent use that I find it’s all a bit lacking in drama and soul so that I’m either emotionally blind to how rapid it is or it’s really just lacking a bit of something. Not in any way to denigrate it but for me I think the turbo would be able to elicit a bit more of a primal response from me rather than the “yeah, ok, that’s fine” I feel a lot of the time.

As said, it’s very subjective and intellectually I understand it’s very quick. I just wish it made a bit more of it I suppose. Hard to nail down the bit that’s missing for me.

Never apologize for having a life in the real world outside this forum ?

I'm now on day 8 with my Turbo and have been driving around for no reason other than enjoyment, but my suspicion that I am becoming acclimated to the performance is now confirmed- I've gone from being intimidated from using full throttle in a 4S demonstrator run (I found the sensation off-putting, like I might feint if I kept my foot down ?), to now being relaxed doing successive launches in the Turbo. The movement of the world and other vehicles makes it clear that that the acceleration is epic, but the drama has diminished...maybe we really are living in The Matrix! So my point being that, at least in my case, the initial "high" (for better or worse) can't be matched without taking a bigger hit...it could be a dangerous and expensive path to take ?

My thoughts...
I think the reason for getting acclimatised (so quickly) is because the sensation of sound is missing.

We have been conditioned to the feel of speed from a very early age with either movement around us, wind in the hair/ face and (mostly) sound. A overhead passing aeroplane or a low flying jet fighter - we perceive the speed by the jet engine roar; and not really by vision.
Sound plays such an important role in our speed perception.

G-force acceleration is not really recognised by the brain as a feel for speed. Sitting in a plane, taking off - the speed is not really processed by the brain whether it is small plane or a massive A380.
(I am not sure what the brain feels under extreme acceleration G forces, whether it will recognise that as speed or just a different feeling)

The big missing bit is the engine sound, a howling V8 or a visceral straight 6; the gear shifts, the mechanical lurch, etc... and the brain fools one into thinking we are moving faster than it really is.

 

[WuffvonTrips]

My thoughts...
I think the reason for getting acclimatised (so quickly) is because the sensation of sound is missing.

We have been conditioned to the feel of speed from a very early age with either movement around us, wind in the hair/ face and (mostly) sound. A overhead passing aeroplane or a low flying jet fighter - we perceive the speed by the jet engine roar; and not really by vision.
Sound plays such an important role in our speed perception.

G-force acceleration is not really recognised by the brain as a feel for speed. Sitting in a plane, taking off - the speed is not really processed by the brain whether it is small plane or a massive A380.
(I am not sure what the brain feels under extreme acceleration G forces, whether it will recognise that as speed or just a different feeling)

The big missing bit is the engine sound, a howling V8 or a visceral straight 6; the gear shifts, the mechanical lurch, etc... and the brain fools one into thinking we are moving faster than it really is.

I think that's a likely factor. Another one is I think that, when accelerating at a significant proportion of gravitational acceleration, the sensors in the inner ear confuse the brain in to thinking that the body is suddenly and involuntarily experiencing free-fall in an unnatural direction.

 

[MrB]

I think that’s very much at the heart of it, it’s the absence of aural drama and, when coupled with the linear nature of the acceleration, it manifests itself as very low-key. I came from a very noisy V8 to this and the thump of the gear change and the rise and fall of the engine and exhaust notes were integral to the experience, rendering it very theatrical.

Not the Taycan’s fault, it’s intrinsic to the nature of the electric vehicle.

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