Taycan is in 4th place for the fastest-charging EV of 2022

[TXAG]

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John Beltz Snyder of Autoblog posted an online article today (link) listing the fastest-charging electric vehicles of 2022. The Porsche Taycan is in 4th place behind two GMC Hummers and Lucid Air. Some surprises and not-so-surprises follow. Only vehicles capable of charging over 150 kW are listed.

GMC Hummer EV: 350 kW -- GMC claims the Hummer EV Edition 1 can add nearly 100 miles in 10 minutes.

GMC Hummer SUV: 300 kW -- GMC hasn’t provided an estimation for what that means in terms of miles or battery percentage in a given amount of time.

Lucid Air: 300 kW -- Lucid says that fast charging can add as much as 300 miles of range in 20 minutes.

Porsche Taycan and Audi E-Tron GT: 270 kW -- Porsche equates that to charging the battery from 5% to 80% in as little as 22.5 minutes.

Tesla Models S, X, Y, and 3: 250 kW -- Tesla says its cars can add up to 200 miles of range in 15 minutes of charging.

Genesis Electrified G80: 240 kW -- Genesis says the electric version of its G80 sedan can charge from 10% to 80% in 22 minutes with a battery temperature of 77 degrees Fahrenheit. Note that it has a bigger battery than the Hyundai Group’s E-GMP crossover trio (Genesis GV60, Kia EV6 and Hyundai Ioniq 5).

Genesis GV60: 235 kW -- Genesis says that the GV60 (which shares the E-GMP platform and 800-volt battery architecture with the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6, below) can charge from 10% to 80% in 18 minutes.

Kia EV6: 235 kW -- Like its cousins, the EV6 can charge from 10% to 80% in 18 minutes, Kia claims.

Hyundai Ioniq 5: 235 kW -- You guessed it: Hyundai says it can charge from 10% to 80% in 18 minutes.

Hyundai Ioniq 6: 235 kW -- This future stablemate of the Ioniq 5 also takes 18 minutes to recharge from 10% to 80%.

Rivian R1T: 220 kW -- Rivian says its electric truck can add up to 140 miles of range in 20 minutes.

Rivian R1S: 220 kW -- Like the pickup, this electric SUV claims to add up to 140 miles of range in 20 minutes.

BMW i4: 200 kW -- BMW says the i4 eDrive40 can reclaim up to 108 miles of range per 10 minutes of charging. The M50 gets 97 miles in the same amount of time.

Mercedes-Benz EQS: 200 kW -- That’ll take the EQS 450+ from 10% to 80% in 31 minutes. Not bad when you consider the battery offers 350 miles of range.

Mercedes-Benz EQS SUV: 200 kW -- Mercedes says this upcoming electric SUV will also do 10% to 80% in 31 minutes

BMW iX: 195 kW -- BMW claims the iX xDrive50 and M60 can recoup 90 miles of range in 10 minutes.

Cadillac Lyriq: 190 kW -- Cadillac claims that will add 76 miles of range in about 10 minutes of charging.

Mercedes-Benz EQE: 170 kW -- This upcoming EQE sedan will charge from 10% to 100% in 30 minutes.

Ford F-150 Lightning: 155 kW -- That will charge the extended-range pack from 15% to 80% in about 41 minutes, or 54 miles in 10 minutes. The standard-range battery is only capable of 120-kW charging, which equates to 15% to 80% in about 44 minutes, or 41 miles in 10 minutes.

Audi E-Tron: 150 kW -- Audi doesn’t state what that means in terms of charging time.

Ford Mustang Mach-E: 150 kW -- With rear-wheel drive and the extended-range battery, it’ll charge from 10% to 80% in 38 minutes.

Polestar 2: 150 kW -- Polestar claims a time of 30 minutes to get the battery from 10% to 80%

Toyota bZ4X: 150 kW -- That 150-kW figure is for the rear-wheel-drive model. The all-wheel-drive version is limited to 100 kW. Toyota doesn’t state what that means in terms of charging time.

Volvo C40 Recharge: 150 kW -- That’s 10% to 80% in about 35 minutes at a battery temperature of 95 degrees Fahrenheit.

Volvo XC40 Recharge: 150 kW -- Volvo says it can charge up to 80 percent in 40 minutes when fast charging.

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[buhhy]

These are just manufacturer specs, right? Will be interesting to see real world numbers. If these are anything like EPA #s, I'm sure there's some major overinflation.

 

[JimBob]

This has a lot of moving parts and the article did not try to make an apples to apples comparison.

From the article "For these purposes, we’re ranking the cars by their peak charging capability, listed in kilowatts (kW)

But no car can charge at peak for the whole session. You would need to look at the charging curve.

IMO time to charge to gain 100 miles, 200 miles etc makes most sense but others may feel differently.

 

[TXAG]

This has a lot of moving parts and the article did not try to make an apples to apples comparison.

From the article "For these purposes, we’re ranking the cars by their peak charging capability, listed in kilowatts (kW)

But no car can charge at peak for the whole session. You would need to look at the charging curve.

IMO time to charge to gain 100 miles, 200 miles etc makes most sense but others may feel differently.

I think you're on to something - I too like the idea of ranking by "time to charge to gain 200 miles" but the author would have to do a lot more work for that. Here he's simply assembling and reporting manufacturers' specs and touts in one article.

Sounds like there needs to be industry benchmark testing involving starting %SOC, battery temperature, battery capacity, guess-o-meter accuracy, tire size, etc. if there isn't one already. There's a lot of focus on range, but perhaps adding charging speed in an easy-to-understand form will aid prospective high-mileage or frequent-road-tripping EV buyers.

 

[Tooney]

Per Tom Moloughney State of Charge Youtube testing:
Taycan RWD gets 100 miles in 7 minutes/200 miles in 14 minutes:

 

[Bill33525]

This has a lot of moving parts and the article did not try to make an apples to apples comparison.

From the article "For these purposes, we’re ranking the cars by their peak charging capability, listed in kilowatts (kW)

But no car can charge at peak for the whole session. You would need to look at the charging curve.

IMO time to charge to gain 100 miles, 200 miles etc makes most sense but others may feel differently.

Audi etron is flat 150kW to 80%

 

[Tooney]

Audi etron is flat 150kW to 80%

Kyle of Out of Spec youtube channel recently bought Audi e-tron and did a couple of videos of e-tron road trips from CT to CO.

He remarked about the e-tron's flat 150kw charging profile to 80% and how it makes charging on long trips different than other EVs. With e-tron on road trips he took his time charging at steady 150kw with fewer stops, rather than more frequent, shorter charging stops with EVs like the Taycan whose peak charging rates taper off much sooner.

He liked the e-tron's charging profile a lot.

 

[Bill33525]

Since E.A. chargers are typically less than 70 miles apart the etron can stop at every other station. With 0-80% charging time less than 30 minutes the etron can road trip competitively with newer cars since bio breaks can chew up similar time easily.

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