European Trip

[Lobbus]

We are doing a 2,000 mile roundtrip at the end of the month.

Whilst there are plenty of chargers enroute, one of the countryside hotels does not have charging facilities (other than via a plug and the Porsche mobile charger)

Does anyone have any experience using these extension leads to plug a UK 3 pin into?

https://toughleads.co.uk/collections/ev-electric-vehicle-extension-leads

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[McgR]

I ordered an Italian plug for my PMC+. It took 2 days to arrive at the dealer and it was 120 euro.

where are you going?

I think they advise against the use of exentensions. Could be dangerous. Lots of power going through for a long time.

I think I will put in on 50% just to be sure. If it is charged in 3 days it should be fine for my local use.

 

[Lobbus]

I am going to France, Italy and Switzerland so didn't want to purchase 3 cables at €120 per cable as I might never need them.

 

[McgR]

I am going to France, Italy and Switzerland so didn't want to purchase 3 cables at €120 per cable as I might never need them.

Yes 3 is too much.

I purchased the Italian one because I didn’t find anything like you found and I am a bit afraid of using extension. On the other hand they look like specifically made for this.

I already have the French, same as the Belgian one. This one is also quite common in Italy. They have both.

we are staying in Switzerland for 2 days and they have a charger on site.

For fast chargers in France I would suggest to plan your trip and know where the chargers are. There are not to frequent.

Switzerland shouldn’t be a problem. Lots of chargers.

in Italy we are staying around lake Como. No charger in town but the owner of the house is ok if I charge there. Did some research and there are enough 22 kw chargers at 20-30 km and some 150 kw chargers a bit further away. I think I should be fine charging while visiting Como for a couple of hours.

the more southern part of Italy could be more difficult.

 

[tutis]

The French plugs are designed for 16A, the British ones for 13A, while the Swiss and italian are designed for 10A.
if you plug your 13A plug in a 10A socket with one of those cheap adapter you find at the airport, you’ll at best melt the adapter, or worse damage the electrical circuit. None of the consumer plugs are designed for sustained operation at 100%, they can only support 80% of their nominal rating.

in a little Italian B&B that we regularly visit, the owner has now banned any EV charging because one of your Brit fellows came with a French plug and an adapter and loaded the system at 13A over a night when it was designed for 10A peak, 8A sustained. B&B owner had for over €2k of repairs because the fellow Brit couldn’t spend €100 for the right charger plug (which automatically limits the drawing power). He’s ruined it for all otherEV drivers. So, please ; spend that €100 or whatever is needed. That €100 is peanuts compared to what that European trip will cost, never mind compared to the cost of the car.

 

[McgR]

The French plugs are designed for 16A, the British ones for 13A, while the Swiss and italian are designed for 10A.
if you plug your 13A plug in a 10A socket with one of those cheap adapter you find at the airport, you’ll at best melt the adapter, or worse damage the electrical circuit. None of the consumer plugs are designed for sustained operation at 100%, they can only support 80% of their nominal rating.

in a little Italian B&B that we regularly visit, the owner has now banned any EV charging because one of your Brit fellows came with a French plug and an adapter and loaded the system at 13A over a night when it was designed for 10A peak, 8A sustained. B&B owner had for over €2k of repairs because the fellow Brit couldn’t spend €100 for the right charger plug (which automatically limits the drawing power). He’s ruined it for all otherEV drivers. So, please ; spend that €100 or whatever is needed. That €100 is peanuts compared to what that European trip will cost, never mind compared to the cost of the car.

This is exactly what I was afraid of and why I bought the official Italian one for PMC+. Imagine if you are responsible for burning the B&B down and they found out you used a extension.

and in your case I would also buy a French one if you plan to do more trips. I think they also work for Austria

 

[NeilJ]

We are doing a 2,000 mile roundtrip at the end of the month.

Whilst there are plenty of chargers enroute, one of the countryside hotels does not have charging facilities (other than via a plug and the Porsche mobile charger)

Does anyone have any experience using these extension leads to plug a UK 3 pin into?

https://toughleads.co.uk/collections/ev-electric-vehicle-extension-leads

Yes - I’ve used the connectors from Toughleads, and they are excellent. We’ve just returned from a trip to Italy. While in Italy I used the Porsche Connect charger connected using the Italian Toughleads adapter and ELCB - all worked a treat.

 

[tigerbalm]

B&B owner had for over €2k of repairs ...

And though it is probably overkill – that is why I've been very pleased with the features and flexibility of the Swiss-made Juice Booster.

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/shout-out-to-the-juice-booster-2.5389/

 

[Swissbob]

There are so many fast chargers now that I didn’t even take the charging cable on our recent trip. First try of an Enel X Way 300kWh Hyper charger - boy it was quick! Pleasantly surprised it was only 25% more expensive than the Ionity (due to getting charged a per minute fee on top).

 

[Swissbob]

It was hot yesterday but range still pretty decent with air con on low, roofbox and fully loaded car

 

[ben1]

The French plugs are designed for 16A, the British ones for 13A, while the Swiss and italian are designed for 10A.
if you plug your 13A plug in a 10A socket with one of those cheap adapter you find at the airport, you’ll at best melt the adapter, or worse damage the electrical circuit. None of the consumer plugs are designed for sustained operation at 100%, they can only support 80% of their nominal rating.

in a little Italian B&B that we regularly visit, the owner has now banned any EV charging because one of your Brit fellows came with a French plug and an adapter and loaded the system at 13A over a night when it was designed for 10A peak, 8A sustained. B&B owner had for over €2k of repairs because the fellow Brit couldn’t spend €100 for the right charger plug (which automatically limits the drawing power). He’s ruined it for all otherEV drivers. So, please ; spend that €100 or whatever is needed. That €100 is peanuts compared to what that European trip will cost, never mind compared to the cost of the car.

Or just put the charger to 50%.
I regularly charged with extension cables on holidays. But kept it always under 10A.
If you are somewhere for several days, you can charge to full at 10A.

 

[ben1]

If you put the porsche mobile charger to 50%, it is at 8A I think.
That is about 1700-1800 Watt. Should be safe.

 

[tutis]

If you put the porsche mobile charger to 50%, it is at 8A I think.
That is about 1700-1800 Watt. Should be safe.

And if you use any kind of extension cord, then only use it with a low Amp setting (e.g. 8 to 10 A) completely unrolled as it as will otherwise overheat (poor heat dissipation and coil generated inductance), melt and damage possibly the electrical circuit, and possibly your charger.

 

[McgR]

It was hot yesterday but range still pretty decent with air con on low, roofbox and fully loaded car

Not bad. Hope I can have te same in two weeks . Your average speed is quite low.

I am staying in Flims for two days and then going to Como. I was thinking of taking the Splugen pass. I have done Mountain roads but I read it is quite narrow and hairpins are in tunnels.

 

[Scandinavian]

It was hot yesterday but range still pretty decent with air con on low, roofbox and fully loaded car

That is very impressive with roofbox and fully loaded car. And Switzerland and Northern Italy is not exactly flat landscape either.

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