On the fence

[vxb]

^ Yes, the Taycan is still a bigger car compared to the i4 once actually squeezing into that parking spot. But for turning around in parking garages, etc., the turning radius differential is massive. Really takes some adjustment when using my wife's i4. And if anything, the turning radius of my Taycan is not used to its maximum potential since so many times I think to myself, No way am I going to make this, but turns out I could have.

I also just love driving the Taycan in city driving, even the 15mph college campus service road we take to place tennis. (Ball hopper on a bike is just too uncomfortable, plus a bit dicey holding the bike handlebars with just one arm.)
First time I drove my Taycan, I drove four trips in sequence of ~20 min at ~20mph avg. I thought it would be annoying, but instead it's my favorite vehicle for that kind of driving. (And of course even more of a favorite on highways!) Only drawback is that suspension is not as plush on major potholes as the i4, and neither is anywhere near our A6ar.

I actually thought that with PASM Taycan should be very plush and glide over potholes. My I4 ev40 should have the same suspension setup as m50, and It’s very firm over road imperfections at slow speed

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[Jonathan S.]

I actually thought that with PASM Taycan should be very plush and glide over potholes. My I4 ev40 should have the same suspension setup as m50, and It’s very firm over road imperfections at slow speed

My J1.1 [edit] 4CT has only RAS and PTV+, not PASM.
I’m pretty sure the M50 suspension is different than the e40 (although I bought it only for the AWD, before the x40 was available).

 

[whitex]

My J1.2 4CT has only RAS and PTV+, not PASM.

You upgraded to J1.2???

 

[Crazymind]

My previous CT had optional rear axle steering. My 4S now doesn’t. Can’t feel any difference in agility or smaller spaces despite now 21” vs 20”. In addition, without rear axle feels more stable at higher speed.

 

[Jonathan S.]

You upgraded to J1.2???

No, but I downgraded to typing on my phone, whoops, typo!

 

[vxb]

I just took another test drive and it was much better: a mixture of small windy roads and about 40 miles on a highway. The car kind of shrank around me and was easy and enjoyable to control. The dealership was closing when I return the car, and we agreed I would let them know about my decision in a couple of days. Just before leaving, a general manager (an extremely nice guy) told me to keep in mind that Taycans are very heavy and therefore prone to blowing up tires. In his words "you hit a small bump and boom". Can you, please, share your experience about this? The car is on 20" tires. I never experienced a blowout on my I4, and the weights of I4 EV40 and base Taycan are pretty close, I think. Thank you.

 

[whitex]

I have both 20” and 21” tires. I keep them at the recommended “full load” tire pressures, primarily to make sure I don’t damage the rim on potholes. I have hit a hard pothole on a highway on a couple of occasions that I recall (WA roads are horrible). While it felt like a very hard jolt, tires are fine (I always checked carefully, plus I swap my wheels 3-4 times a year so I have the opportunity to inspect them in detail then).

Was the dealership trying to sell you tire or wheel insurance perhaps?

 

[vxb]

I have both 20” and 21” tires. I keep them at the recommended “full load” tire pressures, primarily to make sure I don’t damage the rim on potholes. I have hit a hard pothole on a highway on a couple of occasions that I recall (WA roads are horrible). While it felt like a very hard jolt, tires are fine (I always checked carefully, plus I swap my wheels 3-4 times a year so I have the opportunity to inspect them in detail then).

Was the dealership trying to sell you tire or wheel insurance perhaps?

Thanks for the reply. No, the general manager was just very honest and provided me with the full information to help me make an educated decision

 

[Fish Fingers]

I just took another test drive and it was much better: a mixture of small windy roads and about 40 miles on a highway. The car kind of shrank around me and was easy and enjoyable to control. The dealership was closing when I return the car, and we agreed I would let them know about my decision in a couple of days. Just before leaving, a general manager (an extremely nice guy) told me to keep in mind that Taycans are very heavy and therefore prone to blowing up tires. In his words "you hit a small bump and boom". Can you, please, share your experience about this? The car is on 20" tires. I never experienced a blowout on my I4, and the weights of I4 EV40 and base Taycan are pretty close, I think. Thank you.

Found you on here now - I had responded on the other forum.

This is the thread you want to read.
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/taycan-problem-potential-catastrophic-tire-failure.16788/

And this is the other thread I mentioned.
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/high-voltage-battery-recall-expanded-arb6-arb7.21519/

 

[Hirschaj]

In his words "you hit a small bump and boom".

If that were true you’d see a ton of threads about it all over the internet. It’s a very strange statement.

My wife hit a huge pothole that was difficult to see and blew out both tires on the drivers side a couple of years ago.

Other than that, no blowouts on any other potholes with my car (21 inch wheels) even though it has definitely hit more.

 

[vxb]

Found you on here now - I had responded on the other forum.

This is the thread you want to read.
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/taycan-problem-potential-catastrophic-tire-failure.16788/

And this is the other thread I mentioned.
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/high-voltage-battery-recall-expanded-arb6-arb7.21519/

Thank you very much

 

[Crazymind]

No trouble with alloys. They are not made in China
Dealer might be specific about roads in your area…

 

[Torv]

I have a nice 2023 BMW I4 ev40 in tanzanite blue, M-Sport with only 19,000 miles on the odometer. I happened to test drive a 2025 base taycan at a neighborhood Porsche dealer and was blown away by its suspension calibration, handling, and steering feel. I considered only leasing it, but that dealer gave me a really high monthly quote. Now I found a much better lease deal and decided to go for it. My car was appraised for $32K (ouch, paid $68K in October of 20222) by Carmax, and the dealer accepted the estimate. I agreed to the deal and yesterday brought my car to trade it in and pick up Taycan. I started with a test drive which, I thought, was just a formality, but this time the car seemed very large although it still drove extremely nice. I told the dealer I needed more time to make a decision and left. Taycan is a demo with less than 4,000 miles, MSRP $124,000. I could lease it for $1,100 a month with 0 down for a 24/7,500. Trading in my car reduces the tax amount by over $2,000, and the dealer will cut me a check for $32,000. Experienced people on leasehackr liked the lease numbers.

I completely undertsand that it's a really bad deal financially: in two years I'll pay $27K to porsche and will be left with $5K (32-27) and no car. However, it's not a rational decision but purely emotional: I really loved the first Taycan test drive, it was fantastic.

I'm not sure why I'm posting this as nobody but myself can make a decision. Every 10 minutes I change my mind whether to keep my I4 or get Taycan.
I wonder if some people on this forum dealt with a similar dilemma and what car they eventually chose.

I would urge you to grind the dealer more aggressively to get a better deal. Remind him that the Taycan and EVs in general suffer a 50% hit in depreciation (as evidenced by your i4). Better still, buy a lightly used 2024 for significantly less than the 2025. The performance of the 2024 is more or less the same as the 2025 but with a 20% hit in range.

 

[vxb]

I would urge you to grind the dealer more aggressively to get a better deal. Remind him that the Taycan and EVs in general suffer a 50% hit in depreciation (as evidenced by your i4). Better still, buy a lightly used 2024 for significantly less than the 2025. The performance of the 2024 is more or less the same as the 2025 but with a 20% hit in range.

A great point! Moreover, on October 1, when the ev incentive goes away, the depreciation hit will be even more severe

 

[MidwestPCar]

No financial input as I never lease, but wouldn't greater depreciation imply higher lease payments? I thought leasing is essentially paying for the depreciation, conceptually. Just want to be better informed if I've been thinking about it wrong.

I would urge you to grind the dealer more aggressively to get a better deal. Remind him that the Taycan and EVs in general suffer a 50% hit in depreciation (as evidenced by your i4). Better still, buy a lightly used 2024 for significantly less than the 2025. The performance of the 2024 is more or less the same as the 2025 but with a 20% hit in range.

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