Battery rebuild & replacement service in Nevada?

[Gino]

Someone on the forum mentioned an EV battery module repair, rebuild & replacement service where the cost to fully rebuild a base Taycan battery for $8900.00 in a week or so which includes transport of your vehicle to/from Henderson, NV where the rebuilder’s facility is.
I can’t find the information anywhere but I’m hoping someone on the forum knows the name of this company.

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[Tooney]

https://recell-ev.com/

 

[Gino]

Someone on the forum mentioned an EV battery module repair, rebuild & replacement service where the cost to fully rebuild a base Taycan battery for $8900.00 in a week or so which includes transport of your vehicle to/from Henderson, NV where the rebuilder’s facility is.
I can’t find the information anywhere but I’m hoping someone on the forum knows the name of this company.

I just found it!
The company is called Recell.
Recell is a licensed member of the Porsche Partner Network, and all our refurbished battery packs use only genuine Porsche parts and factory original LG battery modules.
2019-2020 costs $9995.00
2021-2024 costs $10,995.00
Shipping to/from Recell is $395 to $995 depending on distance to Recell.
Warranty is 4 years or 50,000 miles.
I’m sure there will be other services like this but I’m happy this service is less than 300 miles to the Recell service center in Nevada.
Locations in US:
Austin Texas • Henderson Nevada • South Bend Indiana • Wilmington Delaware • Valdosta Georgia • Boise Idaho
My only concern with Recell is with their battery warranty which is only supported by Recell so I would have to ship the vehicle back to Henderson, NV if the battery fails in the 4 year warranty period.
By the time my battery warranty expires in January 2030 I’m hoping Recell has locations in Southern California or competitors to Recell pop up in California with similar pricing & warranties.
I’m planning on keeping my Taycan forever so it’s a great sign that there will be at least one option to replace my battery after 8 years for roughly $12K with an additional 4 years of warranty.
I would expect Porsche to also have their own battery replacement offering in the $20K to $30K max by 2028 when all 2019 & 2020s are out of warranty with demand rising from 2029 onward as more Porsche EVs come off warranty.
I would likely pay $20K to have my local Porsche do the repair if the warranty is comparable just for the convenience.
I’m expecting my 2021 battery will last at least for 12+ years but likely as much as 15-20 years since I rarely use DC fast charging after the first 3 years & 37K miles. From the 3 year point onward I charge very slowly at 120V in my garage and I’ve seen roughly 5% reduction in range after the first 3 years and zero reduction in range in the last 1.5 years & another 8K miles for a total of 45K miles. I average 4K per year now so I won’t hit 100K until 2040 a decade after my warranty expires.
At least I know there is at least one option to get the battery replaced…

 

[gamueller]

Fantastic. Same car and year, similar mileage (48K), same personal age (old), same wish to make this my last car!

 

[Vercingetorix]

Too bad they cant locate Boise Idaho properly on the map.

 

[Gino]

At least in the US I expect this will put to bed the idea that a battery replacement will cost so much from Porsche that out of warranty vehicles will be practically worthless.
Recell is a Porsche certified partner so they recognize they need a lower cost option to keep Porsche EV’s on the road long after warranty expiration.
These prices from Recell are similar to getting a 4 cylinder Boxster motor rebuilt by an independent Porsche certified master mechanic which I was quoted $12K a few years ago. A rebuilt motor from Porsche was $27K.
I expect Porsche will eventually drop their price for a base battery pack replacement in the $25K to $30K range and the larger battery maybe $3K to $5K more. By 2030 I expect Porsche will have options to compete with 3rd party shops like Recell which will become a very profitable battery service business.

 

[TaYcanAficionado]

The real question for me is, whether such independent EV shops will be able to swap the battery for a bigger and newer chemistry one after 2030, when price per kwh will be like $50. Maybe doable with a can bus translator? Theoretically, the taycan's modular design should make this a possibility. Time will tell!

 

[Gino]

The real question for me is, whether such independent EV shops will be able to swap the battery for a bigger and newer chemistry one after 2030, when price per kwh will be like $50. Maybe doable with a can bus translator? Theoretically, the taycan's modular design should make this a possibility. Time will tell!

At this point Recell has stated upgrades to larger batteries or newer chemistries is not cost effective at this time.
I believe only if Porsche paves the way for these upgrades to vehicles already delivered will this become a reliable reality.
Unfortunately I don’t believe Porsche will want to do this since they prefer to get customers to trade-in their cars to generate new vehicle sales.
Porsche charges an arm & a leg for simple upgrades so I’d be shocked if they offered backward compatible batteries with longer range or different chemistries.
We can always hope they will or some 3rd party like Recell sees it as an opportunity to generate more business.

 

[roger-on-taycan]

At this point Recell has stated upgrades to larger batteries or newer chemistries is not cost effective at this time.
I believe only if Porsche paves the way for these upgrades to vehicles already delivered will this become a reliable reality.

In principle if somebody had a newer cell with a smaller/lower weight but a compatible charging curve (a big if, but bear with me), you could do a cell-for-cell replacement and end up with the same overall capacity but lower weight, which would probably translate to an overall increase in range.

 

[TaYcanAficionado]

Although I'm not an expert, I believe that the BMS handles charging and if you were to install a 120kwh battery in the taycan (eg in 2030, when batteries are denser, cheaper and lighter), charging power would essentially be the same. But using a canbus translator to "trick" the bms into thinking the car has the same battery, would lead to the battery keeping higher charging power for longer, since the bms would see that the temperature thresholds (which are reached faster with a smaller battery)are now reached at higher SoC. In other words, with a bigger newer battery with new chemistry car would probably be able to hold 270kw until 50-60%

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