2022 Taycan GTS build

[Murph7355]

Can you elaborate on your specs pls - I am undecided between a gts or 4S st and the driving thing for me is that the residuals will be better on a less optioned car and I only get a £5k difference. Am I missing something?

My specs are GTS PNMJQG39
4S ST PNDMPHN0

My current thoughts on a GTS are:

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNVSUSR8

The next link is the sort of thing I'd go for in a 4S, so about £9k difference (granted not absolutely like for like - mainly aesthetics...so Sport Design pack not on it...which is over £3k. Also no matrix lights, which you cannot now have on a 4S)

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNENQCL8

And a Turbo...£10k the other way from the GTS, but it comes with the PSCB brakes, matrix lights etc.

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNVRC7D0

Or a Turbo CT - £1k or so more again

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNM52XK4

As noted elsewhere, I need to test drive a GTS, preferably with rear wheel steer (RAS. And they have torque vectoring, PTV, as standard) before final spec gets settled (suspect I have at least 6mths, and more likely 9mths, before I have to do that). But everything I've read says that it improves an already good package.

The price differentials are fantastically well set to lure you in to spend more money

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[Sidicks]

My current thoughts on a GTS are:
https://www.porsche.com/PNVSUSR8

I think you need to update the link To https://www.Porsche-code.com/PNVSUSR8

Does the LED courtesy lights give you lights that wouldn’t otherwise be there, or is simply changing a plain light to a Porsche logo?

Have you seen the high gloss rear wiper in person - is it worth the cost? Did you also consider having the model name in high gloss black to match?

Did you consider the Remote Park Assist, which comes with Lane Change Assist Included - given the size of the car, I’m wondering if this would be worth the cost.

 

[TaycanHero]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder (thankfully, or my OH would have run for the hills a long time ago).

I think the RS wheels are the best yet for a Taycan. Followed by the CT blade type.

Totally agree about alloys. I really like the GTS satin black RS wheels.

Like you, I am also torn between the GTS ST and 4S CT.

My first ever drive in a proper sports car, which was a Taycan, was in a (£132k priced, Porsche approved) 4S CT. Twas a test drive.

I thought it would be difficult to drive owing to it's sheer speed, width and length (I had been driving a Clio RS Line in Portugal for two months, and a Mercedes EQA in the two weeks up to the test drive), but it felt physically smaller in the drivers seat. It felt very natural to drive and not "difficult".

I absolutely loved it. Went on a 30 minute drive around the A and B roads near to Silverstone.

I'm looking at test driving the GTS ST before I leave the country for another two months, but like you, that is my only concern: how harsh is the steering and suspension and is it tuned more for the track than British roads; and would a 4S set up be more suitable (and cheaper)? I hope to find out with a test drive in the next two weeks.

 

[Murph7355]

I think you need to update the link To https://www.Porsche-code.com/PNVSUSR8

Does the LED courtesy lights give you lights thst wouldn’t otherwise be there, or is simply changing a plain light to a Porsche logo?

Have you seen the high gloss rear wiper in person? Did you also consider having the model name in high gloss black to match?

Did you consider the Remote Park Assist, which comes with Lane Change Assist Included - given the size of the car, I’m wondering if this would be worth the cost.

Bugger! Link updated.

I'm pretty sure the LED courtesy lights give more light and the Porsche logo...they are a frippery, guilty as charged

Not seen the gloss black in person yet, but have seen the std plastic offering. I think, with the wiper being against the glass, the gloss will look "better". Though it serves zero function. Not sure on what to do with the model designation on the rear...deleting it is my latest thought.

The remote parking option's another £500 on top of surround view and lance change assist. We have automated parking (' Active Parking Support' in Porsche speak) on our XC90 and it's useless - I can get the car into much tighter spaces, more quickly.

That said, if it can 'remote park' in tighter spaces, it could be more useful....though other cars next to you still have to open their doors, so am not sure it's worth it for that. Exit warning/rear cross traffic alert/manoeuvering assist *may* be useful. There have been occasions where these functions on the Volvo have been useful....but also a good number of times when they've been annoying

Possibly one to consider on an extended test drive if I can get a car that has these things installed.

Also, I think I may have read that these things are "software" and can be had later on either a monthly subscription (so could be trialed) or a one off (at the same cost as the option includes at build)....?

 

[Sidicks]

I'm pretty sure the LED courtesy lights give more light and the Porsche logo...they are a frippery, guilty as charged

I have it pencilled in, but wasn’t sure what exactly was included!

Not seen the gloss black in person yet, but have seen the std plastic offering. I think, with the wiper being against the glass, the gloss will look "better". Though it serves zero function. Not sure on what to do with the model designation on the rear...deleting it is my latest thought.

With the other gloss black highlights on the car I think it will match nicely, but given the cost for a coat of paint, I;d like to see it in person first!

The remote parking option's another £500 on top of surround view and lance change assist. We have automated parking (' Active Parking Support' in Porsche speak) on our XC90 and it's useless - I can get the car into much tighter spaces, more quickly.

That said, if it can 'remote park' in tighter spaces, it could be more useful....though other cars next to you still have to open their doors, so am not sure it's worth it for that. Exit warning/rear cross traffic alert/manoeuvering assist *may* be useful. There have been occasions where these functions on the Volvo have been useful....but also a good number of times when they've been annoying

Possibly one to consider on an extended test drive if I can get a car that has these things installed.

it’s on my ‘maybe’ options.

Also, I think I may have read that these things are "software" and can be had later on either a monthly subscription (so could be trialed) or a one off (at the same cost as the option includes at build)....?

I think the remote park has additional hardware (cameras) hence can’t simply be added via a software update OTA. Happy to be told otherwise though.

 

[Sidicks]

Yeah, I don’t see that at all. The new GT3 wheels are awesome. Devil’s in the details when it comes to wheels IMO.

 

[356C]

The biggest thing on the GTS (of course ) is the extra power and the tightened up handling....but that said....

If you live anywhere near non-smooth roads, tightened up handling can be problematic. Compliance is often needed as it gives more confidence, prevents crashing and skipping etc.

I didn't find the 4S lacking in terms of power. But equally didn't find the chassis of the car overwhelmed either. I think it could take more. Whether that's "sensible" or not on a public road is questionable, but also subjective

I'm waiting to test drive a GTS before settling fully on spec. I really want one (on look and feel alone)...but am starting to get twitchy about the handling side (partly as a bog standard 4S felt so good).

I have spec'd up a 4S to include a lot of the goodies a GTS comes with and you're right...you're looking at £15k-£20k less cost (and, I suspect, more depreciation - options rarely count for much at selling time). A similarly equipped Turbo is about £10k more.

Should the GTS not work for me, I suspect a Turbo CT will be hard to ignore, even though my head says a 4S would be more sensible.

Decisions, decisions. And money, money, money

So… I have been thinking about the robust sharing of opinions over the past week and, I am delighted to say, the exchange with the forum has influenced my thinking about my GTS build. Many thanks!

Here is my latest build and I would welcome your candid thoughts and opinions! http://www.porsche-code.com/PNXDNF30

 

[Murph7355]

So… I have been thinking about the robust sharing of opinions over the past week and, I am delighted to say, the exchange with the forum has influenced my thinking about my GTS build. Many thanks!

Here is my latest build and I would welcome your candid thoughts and opinions! http://www.porsche-code.com/PNXDNF30

Just remember it's all in good spirit

Options and specs are all very personal, but here goes...

- not a fan of the wheels...definitely not a fan of them for that money....GTS wheels required
- the brakes are an expensive option IMO and am not entirely sure they're worth the outlay. Problem is I can't find any data points on the longevity of std brakes (I'm not so bothered about lack of brake dust...my cars are always filthy anyway)

Those two options are adding $10k (6%) to the car....

- Burmester is something I wouldn't spec in terms of value for money. Bose sounds good and a car's always a compromised environment for listening to music
- 2+1 seating? Seems a number in the US are leaving this off....is that because it's not in a "package"? IMO It's useful to at least have the option of taking another passenger...but then I have passengers to consider (kids/friends - I'm spec'ing rear seat heating for the same reason). The standard option with seating is a little useless tray inbetween the seats
- electric charge port is one more thing to break IMO
- interior's very black...even something as simple as coloured seatbelts lift it a lot for not much money
- consider RaceTex on the b-pillars...gets rid of the plastic in that area (where your elbow may partially sit, depending on how big you are)

You did ask

 

[356C]

Just remember it's all in good spirit

Options and specs are all very personal, but here goes...

- not a fan of the wheels...definitely not a fan of them for that money....GTS wheels required
- the brakes are an expensive option IMO and am not entirely sure they're worth the outlay. Problem is I can't find any data points on the longevity of std brakes (I'm not so bothered about lack of brake dust...my cars are always filthy anyway)

Those two options are adding $10k (6%) to the car....

- Burmester is something I wouldn't spec in terms of value for money. Bose sounds good and a car's always a compromised environment for listening to music
- 2+1 seating? Seems a number in the US are leaving this off....is that because it's not in a "package"? IMO It's useful to at least have the option of taking another passenger...but then I have passengers to consider (kids/friends - I'm spec'ing rear seat heating for the same reason). The standard option with seating is a little useless tray inbetween the seats
- electric charge port is one more thing to break IMO
- interior's very black...even something as simple as coloured seatbelts lift it a lot for not much money
- consider RaceTex on the b-pillars...gets rid of the plastic in that area (where your elbow may partially sit, depending on how big you are)

You did ask

Excellent! While we have a different POV, I sincerely appreciate the robust exchange of opinions.

I am not a fan of black wheels, personal preference. There are more traditional wheel options, but I find the selected wheels to be innovative in terms of design.

The Burmester - you are absolutely correct, expensive option - but so is anything Porsche. The difference in sound quality is a personal priority.

2+1 certainly makes sense if you have passengers on a regular basis. I do not so this is not a priority.

I did seriously consider a lighter interior (chalk) but then saw it in the showroom and felt it was a bit bland. The tan options are not my cup of tea. Most of my cars have had a black interior so this is familiar ground.

Many thanks, again, for the exchange of ideas!

 

[Murph7355]

Cool.

Have you been give an idea of delivery timeframes?

Seems there's a fair bit of variability globally.

 

[356C]

Cool.

Have you been give an idea of delivery timeframes?

Seems there's a fair bit of variability globally.

Late May... but that was before the cargo ship fire.

 

[frietzak]

- electric charge port is one more thing to break IMO

I have read this argument alot on this forum but with this mindset you can remove most options... And if you don't trust Porsche building an electric charge port then should you trust them building an entire car?

 

[Murph7355]

I have read this argument alot on this forum but with this mindset you can remove most options... And if you don't trust Porsche building an electric charge port then should you trust them building an entire car?

Fair comment.

But for the function it just seems like an over-engineered frippery to me. I read somewhere that it has a function that vibrates it and gives the door motor more torque when it's cold to prevent it freezing shut....I'm surprised it's not heated.

The *one* advantage I can see with it, is that it's much neater when cables are plugged into the charge port...maybe protecting the charge port door.

Ultimately, however, you (well, me ) have to stop spending money somewhere And even that said, I'm prepared to spend a similar amount covering the b-pillar trim in something nicer than scratchy plastic. So evidently I'm not immune to fripperies

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