Do ya’ll wheels spin when you floor it?

[whitex]

While not on the skill level of Dave or a few others here, I too have been to several track schools over the last two decades and then spent time blasting around curvy road course circuits, but I never take off all traction control on the street, and rarely even do a halfway removal of it on public roads

I remember on another forum a person with 30 years of SCCA most-summer-weekends who, after turning bhis TC completely off, had the courage to show a picture of his smashed, C7 Corvette on a flatbed after he (his own words), came to a full stop at a T intersection stop, juiced it too much while taking off and making that 90 degree turn — but ended up in the near ditch.

There is more than one video on YouTube of overconfident drivers driving their Model S Plaid, with predictable results. The benefit of a Tesla it's usually all recorded, like this guy (crash in the first 15s of the video).

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[f1eng]

My Ferrari has 380 bhp and the only driver "aid" is a limited slip differential and the only driver over-ride is ABS.

Using full throttle in first gear from a standstill is stupid unless you want to damage tyres. If pressing on around a corner you rarely have enough extra grip to use full throttle in either first or second gear corners and third gear can also get the attention.

The reality is that ever since there has been effective driver over-ride, first traction control then stability control, car makers have been supplying cars with specified power that is way more than can be used most of the time.

They know that what you are actually getting is whatever the engineers programmed into the stability control system, not the headline power. In pretty well every sporty car on sale today this is more a marketing figure than anything getting to the tyre.

Yes if you want to have a high top speed you will need it all but from a standstill you not only don't need it, the clever stability control makes sure you don't get it

Stability control can be made better than the best driver, so it got banned in Formula 1 thankfully, so probably best left on...

As anybody who has done any work on it knows the tyre and road surface make more difference to initial straight line acceleration than power, once you have enough to break traction.