Does the brake recall include a fluid flush/replacement?

[avgm]

that's the reason I never go to a gym...

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[alexsas]

done yesterday. They did flush the circuit but I can't say that it feels different.

What I noticed :
- they have a new retrofit Weissach package for free. They don't mount back all the parts so car is lighter... I have to check if the back seats are still there.

- pressure was +0.3 bar on both front tyres. When asked why, I was told we always follow what's written on the door. Yes, but that's the recommended pressure for 20", car is now on 21" ....

ha! I was upgraded to capless callipers on all 4 corners when they did my brake lines...

 

[avgm]

Firstly, I'm puzzled that the dual hydraulics didn't provide brake action with the single hose blowout in the front. There is no way to test it, but I understand you will get significant extra pedal travel, but the unaffected hydraulic circuit will engage the brakes on two of the wheels. I understand you are not supposed to pump the brakes. This will tend to empty the primary reservoir. Just push hard nearly all the way to the floor.

Second, in cases where there is a rare full failure of the hydraulics, many modern cars have switched to having the electric emergency brake where you press and hold the P button. As I recommended previously under Clive's similar incident in Britain, have all drivers go to a parking lot and try it once or twice to get brain trained. That P button brings the car to a rapid, but smooth stop via a completely separate system at the rear wheels. It works great!

I had the pedal all the way down and there was no slowing down I tried several times and when pressure built up at least slowed down the car a little bit, but regardless of my incident I’ve been driving since I was 16 years old, even though during this incident I sort of panic I was able to keep my cool and think what to do, believe those few minutes felt like an eternity but when i was able to finally stop it i was so relieved that no one was hurt, all that you have stated is correct and every one should me aware on what to do in those situations, my main point here is that it happened to me and it could happen to anyone’s wife, husband , etc Porsche should send out a letter advising owners not to drive the vehicles until the part shortage is resolved , the liability is too great to not warn us owners. Also the way my case was handled by corporate is unacceptable, no apologies total disregard of what I went through, their final word on the last call I’ve received was “your case is closed”

 

[alexsas]

Just posting my experience. Maybe it helps someone, maybe it doesn't.

Got the ARB0 recall letter early August. At the time the Dealership didn't have the parts in stock.

At 29000km car popped a warning that I should replace the cabin filter. I ignored it since I was due for 30k km service soon anyway.

Booked my 30k km service for September 13th. Was told the ARB0 recall couldn't be performed at the same time due to lack of parts. After reading @Maelstrom's undercarriage thread, I panicked and rescheduled the service to September 20th. The reschedule didn't go smooth. Went to the dealership last Friday to drop off the car. Waited 25 min for the garage Assistant to even acknowledge me until I exploded (the 25 min wait + the screwed up reschedule took their toll)

Suddently the ARB0 recall was available to me and two other software updates. Did the service + ARB0 plus whatever the other two updates were.

Ended paying €298 (including 23% VAT) total for the service of which €119 were for the cabin filter.

The brake feel changed substantially. I never complained about how it felt previously but it definitely felt like a race car breaking. Car would definitely "dive" as soon you'd apply any brake pressure. Now it's very very progressive and linear. No more "diving" feeling.

Only thing that hasn't cleared from my app yet is the stupid warning about the recall. No idea when it will dissappear

Cheers

did you have WPK0 done before? because I had done mine months ago, and that changed the behaviour of the brake pedal, but there was no change with ARB0 (to a better or worse)

 

[hifi239]

I stepped on the brake pedal to slow it down and to my surprise the brake pedal went all the way down to the floor!

That's concerning. In addition to the hose blowout (very sorry that happened), there is something wrong with Porsche's blended brake dual hydraulic system. The pedal should not go to the floor. Anyway, if you have the opportunity, ask the dealer (or you) to take a photo of the failed hose. It would be interesting to see where it failed.

 

[DerekS]

We need to be aware of Press and HOLD P before we need it.
Bad thing is that using emergency braking means only one hand on steering wheel.

Thanks for clarifying that. I wasn’t sure if it needed a press or a hold; I was going to try it in a controlled environment when I had a chance.

 

[alexsas]

I had the pedal all the way down and there was no slowing down I tried several times and when pressure built up at least slowed down the car a little bit, but regardless of my incident I’ve been driving since I was 16 years old, even though during this incident I sort of panic I was able to keep my cool and think what to do, believe those few minutes felt like an eternity but when i was able to finally stop it i was so relieved that no one was hurt, all that you have stated is correct and every one should me aware on what to do in those situations, my main point here is that it happened to me and it could happen to anyone’s wife, husband , etc Porsche should send out a letter advising owners not to drive the vehicles until the part shortage is resolved , the liability is too great to not warn us owners. Also the way my case was handled by corporate is unacceptable, no apologies total disregard of what I went through, their final word on the last call I’ve received was “your case is closed”

This is identical to Clive's experience described here before... and it is very worrying

 

[avgm]

That's concerning. In addition to the hose blowout (very sorry that happened), there is something wrong with Porsche's blended brake dual hydraulic system. The pedal should not go to the floor. Anyway, if you have the opportunity, ask the dealer (or you) to take a photo of the failed hose. It would be interesting to see where it failed.

The parts have been sent to Porsche

 

[tchavei]

did you have WPK0 done before? because I had done mine months ago, and that changed the behaviour of the brake pedal, but there was no change with ARB0 (to a better or worse)

I honestly don't remember. I did get a previous recall for the pcm and my car was in the shop about 5 months ago when my air suspension failed (so I assume they did all missing updates) but don't remember that specific code.

I do know that the SA said the car got the ARB0 and 2 additional updates that were missing.

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