German Taycan burns down in Belgium

[ct14garage]

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LOL... As I so often see... The dealer lied once again.... I guess that just dont wanna take the heat.

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[Gino]

Unfortunately I was lied to by PNA not my dealer. PNA obviously just said whatever I wanted to hear and nothing more and of course no documentation to confirm what they lied to me about.
Porsche corporate is obviously going to dodge their responsibility as long as they can up until the 8 year warranty expires on all J1.1 batteries.
It appears they will not make it to 2031 when most of the J1.1 batteries are out of warranty. The longer they can avoid replacing J1.1 batteries the smaller the number of replacements they hope will be required under a recall.
It’s actually quite sad for such an honorable company to behave in such a dishonorable way.
Thanks for running my VIN…

 

[Mountain]

Any journalists reading this, or anyone who know an automotive leaning journalist? Given that ct14garage is correct in his thesis that such a large percentage of batteries are hardware defective this would be absolute bomb scoop material.

New account here, long time lurker, owner of 2023 Taycan. All machines age and require maintenance, maybe most batteries will last 8-10 years but the recent threads in this forum does not precisely provide confidence. Would be great if this blew up in media so Porsche could make an official comment. As some have correctly stated, its not their product that is the focus here, its the battery makers. But our deals are with Porsche so they could honor their customers by clear communication.

 

[frietzak]

Like all 150.000 taycans sold between Q4 2019 and Q3 2024, all have ARB6/7 status as recall active and not completed.

No matter how you put it, any sort of fire is Porsche's fault.

If fire is a high enough posibility, they should have sent a stop drive and started a buy back program or immediate battery replacmenet. They didn't.
They could have also software limited batteries to 80%, forcefully, but they didn't, because that would force them into warranty claims and forced buybacks in EU and NA.

Every step of the way in regards to this recall, Porsche chose the cheapest route, not the best or safest route for customers

If one of these catches fire in the public parking of a mall in europe, i'm almost sure porsche will be forced to send a stop drive and buyback program. They're just lucky it didn't happen yet.

Not true. I don't have the campaign. My car is a ST RWD from 2022.

 

[chun]

Not true. I don't have the campaign. My car is a ST RWD from 2022.

Yes, because apparently Belgium doesn't require/mandate for recalls to be filled in for vehicles with the government, so it's at the Latitude of porsche if they report them or not
https://www.sgs.com/en-be/publications/product-recalls

0 recalls for Porsche

But that doesn't mean that your car is some sort of special unicorn On EU's recall page it says that ALL taycan produced between Q4 2019 and Q3 2024 in the european market are affected.
Now, unless Porsche uses unicorn powder for Belgian taycans, your's is among the affected ones also.

 

[BjörnfromHamburg]

All Taycans are due to inspection.
Not all are affected. Mine isn't (got the report from CT14Garage)

 

[Bennachie]

Dates are interesting Q3 ,24 includes two or four months Of J1.2 production…..

 

[chun]

Mine isn't (got the report from CT14Garage)

Yet. ***

Current diagnosis done by Porsche or CT14 only evaluates whether the battery CURRENTLY exhibits any symptoms related to ARB6 or WRS1. Hence the need to re-check every 60 days via OTA or in service - as per porsche TSB.

Porsche hasn't released yet the software that makes use of AI to "predict" future failure of modules, to be 100% sure your battery will be fine. Neither has CT14 yet.

Your battery is perfectly fine at the moment, but it’s still affected by ARB6 and could have a failure at any point.

Or are you claiming your Taycan report doesn't show any active recalls?

 

[AutoX]

All Taycans are due to inspection.
Not all are affected. Mine isn't (got the report from CT14Garage)

Do you know what determine if your car will be flagged for the recall campaign?

 

[AutoX]

Yet. ***

Current diagnosis done by Porsche or CT14 only evaluates whether the battery CURRENTLY exhibits any symptoms related to ARB6 or WRS1. Hence the need to re-check every 60 days via OTA or in service - as per porsche TSB.

Porsche hasn't released yet the software that makes use of AI to "predict" future failure of modules, to be 100% sure your battery will be fine. Neither has CT14 yet.

Your battery is perfectly fine at the moment, but it’s still affected by ARB6 and could have a failure at any point.

Or are you claiming your Taycan report doesn't show any active recalls?

My 2024 J1 does not show any active campaign. So I'm not sure why mine got skipped.

 

[BjörnfromHamburg]

Agree: I don't know about the future state of my battery.
Further above was stated, ARB 6/7 affects all Taycans.
Currently I don't have ARB 6/7 active.

 

[chun]

Agree: I don't know about the future state of my battery.
Further above was stated, ARB 6/7 affects all Taycans.
Currently I don't have ARB 6/7 active.

You have WRS0, which is the work campaign of both ARB6/ARB7. So I would assume some sort of mistake by whoever checked your car, marked ARB6/7 as "campaign complete", when they should have checked it as "campagin not feasible" as the actual work campaign, WRS0 wasn't done.

At least that's how I interpret it / see it.

That being said, there are multiple people saying they don't have any of those campaigns - a minority, even according to CT14. I don't think you are one of them, but for sure there are some - like all Belgians - who knows why...

 

[BjörnfromHamburg]

Ok, I understand. Just referring to ARB 6/7, not being visible in my current report.
As of now (waiting for Enet Cable to do the check), my battery is at good health, having over 95% SoH and currently giving 404 km on 100% (odo close to 60 Kkm).

Of course anything can happen. Had a Turbo once blowing up at 200 km/h in a perfectly maintained car, also not expecting that.

Oh, and my 993S losing compression on a trip, resulting in 14 k of repairs. Also perfectly maintained. ?

 

[Tooney]

My 2024 J1 does not show any active campaign. So I'm not sure why mine got skipped.

Have you checked the VIN on Porsche recall site on web and NHTSA site?
(Also recall notice issued in US for ARB6/ARB7 in October 2024 stated: Production Dates : OCT 21, 2019 - FEB 01, 2024)

 

[ct14garage]

WRS0/WRS1 are independent of ARB6 and ARB7… Also ARA4/ARA5 is another independent recall

even if they all concern the battery and the symptoms / failure mode are basically identical…. The reports are not!

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