GTS Ride Quality with or without Active Ride

[Beattie]

GTS feels faster - more brutal and slightly less controllable!

Interesting. Even though it has less power when not in launch or push to pass? 600hp(GTS) vs 625hp (Turbo) It was what I was wandering about coming from a J1.1 Turbo too.

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[AlexR]

P2P is violent/brutal acceleration - "Normal acceleration" feels just as fast as the Turbo - I have never for one instant felt it less powerful than the Turbo. It is much more nimble and sporty than the J1 turbo - but this is not always good with English roads, as you feel it more!

 

[Avantgarde]

"Was never said.
I said there is a difference, albeit not a huge one."

"Was never said, not even remotely close."

"Also not said."

Sorry someone had to do this. I know you run on stamina, thinking people would give up. (and many do). These are the facts unless someone was typing on your behalf. And not interested how you walked back these comments afterwards. Again my last advise to you take it or leave it: Easy on tone, be respectful to others.

 

[Beattie]

P2P is violent/brutal acceleration - "Normal acceleration" feels just as fast as the Turbo - I have never for one instant felt it less powerful than the Turbo. It is much more nimble and sporty than the J1 turbo - but this is not always good with English roads, as you feel it more!

That’s really good to know. I am probably steering towards a J1.2 GTS with PAR instead of Turbo without PAR. Would like something more focused on handling. Just don’t want the GTS to feel slower than what I have at the moment.

 

[prj]

That’s really good to know. I am probably steering towards a J1.2 GTS with PAR instead of Turbo without PAR. Would like something more focused on handling. Just don’t want the GTS to feel slower than what I have at the moment.

It won't feel slower at all. It also has more power in push to pass.
The way the facelift is tuned it tries to always make target wheel torque. So if you drive in normal mode then even before it kicks down the gear it will make the target torque, making it more consistent whether in 1st or 2nd gear.
Furthermore the new battery allows you to make the target power in suboptimal conditions - cold outside, low SoC.

In real world usage I'd argue for the GTS with PAR, unless you really want to have the Turbo body design.

 

[Beattie]

I need to test drive a GTS with PAR and ideally a Turbo as well. Although the Turbo body does look better, it’s not enough to sway me.

 

[AlexR]

If you are using finance, the decision is a no brainer. The residuals for the GTS and the Turbo are within 5% - 10%, so add £20-£30k day one for a Turbo but the GFV/equivalent will only be £2-£3k more. I was quite shocked!

 

[Beattie]

If you are using finance, the decision is a no brainer. The residuals for the GTS and the Turbo are within 5% - 10%, so add £20-£30k day one for a Turbo but the GFV/equivalent will only be £2-£3k more. I was quite shocked!

If you are using finance, the decision is a no brainer. The residuals for the GTS and the Turbo are within 5% - 10%, so add £20-£30k day one for a Turbo but the GFV/equivalent will only be £2-£3k more. I was quite shocked!

I’m actually looking to get through salary sacrifice at work. The two figures are almost the same. GTS with PAR vs Turbo without PAR.

 

[dcp10]

I am probably steering towards a J1.2 GTS with PAR

@Beattie: As a fellow Tesla owner dipping their toes into Porsche territory, are you tempted to wait for MY27 - or potentially for a new platform for MY28?

That's probably my biggest quandary right now: whether to pay full price for a model that's going to be replaced within the next two years or so.

It's a tough one for me because I typically buy my cars (albeit through my company) and keep them for many years. It seems that here in the UK most Taycans are leased for 1-2 years then dumped back on the market.

 

[Beattie]

@Beattie: As a fellow Tesla owner dipping their toes into Porsche territory, are you tempted to wait for MY27 - or potentially for a new platform for MY28?

That's probably my biggest quandary right now: whether to pay full price for a model that's going to be replaced within the next two years or so.

It's a tough one for me because I typically buy my cars (albeit through my company) and keep them for many years. It seems that here in the UK most Taycans are leased for 1-2 years then dumped back on the market.

As much as it might be worth waiting, my Taycan finance is due up early next year. So I need to replace then. My main quandary, other than GTS or Turbo, is Taycan or Cayenne Turbo EV? The Cayenne would be more practical. Better tech, better range and faster charging speed. And new out as a model range. But, I’m not totally smitten by the looks of the new Cayenne. It looks ok. But I doubt I will look back at it once I’ve parked it up. I often look back at my Taycan to admire it. I also like the low down driving position and the way it drives. It does feel quite 911 like but with a battery. My intention is to take out over 5 years which is quite a long time from a tech point of view. EV tech is fast moving and at least if it was the new Cayenne it will be a little more future proof, not that any car is actually future proof but I’m sure you understand where I’m coming from. Will need to order this year for early next year delivery.

 

[mpaulus007]

Better tech, better range and faster charging speed.

J1.2 tech in 26 model is good (dramatically improved over '25 or previous years), range is approximately the same as Cayenne and nothing to complain about charging speed averaging 300kw until 60%

 

[Beattie]

J1.2 tech in 26 model is good (dramatically improved over '25 or previous years), range is approximately the same as Cayenne and nothing to complain about charging speed averaging 300kw until 60%

I’m sure you’re right. The Cayenne might just be marginally better, particularly with the bigger battery. But then it’s also heavier. So not entirely sure. I am still very much more inclined for the Taycan. I just love it. I want to see some reviews on the Cayenne.

 

[prj]

I’m sure you’re right. The Cayenne might just be marginally better, particularly with the bigger battery. But then it’s also heavier. So not entirely sure. I am still very much more inclined for the Taycan. I just love it. I want to see some reviews on the Cayenne.

Cayenne is going to have much less range on the motorway, it has less combined range as well.
Also, once you spec it, it's probably going to be about the price of a Turbo with PAR.

I am talking about the Turbo of course, the standard one will be extremely slow compared to a Taycan GTS or Turbo.

 

[Beattie]

Cayenne is going to have much less range on the motorway, it has less combined range as well.
Also, once you spec it, it's probably going to be about the price of a Turbo with PAR.

I am talking about the Turbo of course, the standard one will be extremely slow compared to a Taycan GTS or Turbo.

Why do you think the Cayenne will have less range on the motorway than the GTS? Appreciate it is heavier. But it does have a bigger battery. Isn’t the drag coefficient similar? I thought I’d heard that somewhere. Looking at the configurator website and the range quoted for the GTS is 359miles combined and the Cayenne Turbo is 379 miles. Somewhat dependant also on wheels/tyre combination.

 

[prj]

Why do you think the Cayenne will have less range on the motorway than the GTS? Appreciate it is heavier. But it does have a bigger battery. Isn’t the drag coefficient similar? I thought I’d heard that somewhere. Looking at the configurator website and the range quoted for the GTS is 359miles combined and the Cayenne Turbo is 379 miles. Somewhat dependant also on wheels/tyre combination.

The GTS Sedan shows as 389 miles in the configurator overview and the Cayenne Turbo as 379 miles. The ST has 372 miles.

The drag coefficient is a coefficient, you still have to multiply that by the frontal area.
You could have a truck with low c/d, does not change that it's massive.

The Taycan ST c/d is 0.25 and frontal area is 2.33 m2.
The Cayenne Turbo c/d is also 0.25, but the frontal area is surely going to be much higher.
The Macan electric is 2.69 m2 and it's a much smaller car.

Expect a minimum of 2.8m2 for the Cayenne Turbo, so it's going to have at least 20% more drag than the Taycan ST.
That's why the range is going to be significantly worse on motorway.

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