GTS Ride Quality with or without Active Ride

[Beattie]

The GTS Sedan shows as 389 miles in the configurator overview and the Cayenne Turbo as 379 miles. The ST has 372 miles.

The drag coefficient is a coefficient, you still have to multiply that by the frontal area.
You could have a truck with low c/d, does not change that it's massive.

The Taycan ST c/d is 0.25 and frontal area is 2.33 m2.
The Cayenne Turbo c/d is also 0.25, but the frontal area is surely going to be much higher.
The Macan electric is 2.69 m2 and it's a much smaller car.

Expect a minimum of 2.8m2 for the Cayenne Turbo, so it's going to have at least 20% more drag than the Taycan ST.
That's why the range is going to be significantly worse on motorway.

I should have made it clear, it’s the ST I was referring to with Spyder RS wheels which aren’t the most efficient wheels.
I’m out of my depth with regards to drag science. Just thought if the numbers are the same then efficiency might be similar dependant on wheels/tyre sizes. I guess real world tests will reveal what it’s like. It will be difficult to make exact predictions on a car that isn’t properly on the road yet.

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[SoccerMan94043]

I should have made it clear, it’s the ST I was referring to with Spyder RS wheels which aren’t the most efficient wheels.
I’m out of my depth with regards to drag science. Just thought if the numbers are the same then efficiency might be similar dependant on wheels/tyre sizes. I guess real world tests will reveal what it’s like. It will be difficult to make exact predictions on a car that isn’t properly on the road yet.

My real world efficiency in the Sedan GTS with 21" Spyders is 2.7 miles / kWh or about 262 miles. That being said, the one time I charged it to 100% it said 294 miles. It is winter so perhaps my range will go up.

From what I've read the ST has worse efficiency.

 

[Beattie]

My real world efficiency in the Sedan GTS with 21" Spyders is 2.7 miles / kWh or about 262 miles. That being said, the one time I charged it to 100% it said 294 miles. It is winter so perhaps my range will go up.

From what I've read the ST has worse efficiency.

That sounds about right. I believe the ST is a little worse. My J1.1 Turbo only gives me about 190 miles in the winter so yours is a nice improvement.

 

[prj]

That sounds about right. I believe the ST is a little worse. My J1.1 Turbo only gives me about 190 miles in the winter so yours is a nice improvement.

I am getting over 300 miles indicated on my J1.2 CT4 and it's -7C outside.
The reason it's that high is because my car is stored in a heated garage, and it's all city/suburban miles, so the speeds aren't high. Going to see how it does on a longer/higher speed trip in the cold weather this weekend.

 

[Beattie]

I am getting over 300 miles indicated on my J1.2 CT4 and it's -7C outside.
The reason it's that high is because my car is stored in a heated garage, and it's all city/suburban miles, so the speeds aren't high. Going to see how it does on a longer/higher speed trip in the cold weather this weekend.

That’s pretty good. Be interesting to hear your findings after your long trip.

 

[SoccerMan94043]

 

[Fun TC Driving]

Just re-read this entire thread. My thoughts fwiw and at the end of this post is an independent media review that IMO helps summarizes this issue.

A) 20” wheels/tires will result in a softer ride than 21”’s = duh.

B) A Cross Tuyrismo’s ride is softer than a GTS. (In an extended length test drive we took in a 2025 Cross Turismo with 20” wheels, I forgot I was in Sport Plus the entire last 30 minutes of the drive, that is until the salesperson gently asked, “are you aware you have been in Sports Plus” most of this drive?”

C)A GTS is sprung more stiffly, ah, again as designed and as it should be.

So back to the main question as to whether a GTS ST with 21” wheels and active ride is sprung too firmly. IMO it is not, but our local roads are irregular and bumpy in more than isolated spots. However my wife and I like a firm ride, and in comparison FWIW, the 2025+ GTS ST with 21“ wheels/tires rides softer in normal mode than does than our 2024 Macan EV Turbo with OEM 22” wheels with Michelin A/S tires (also normal mode), and also rides way softer than our C8 Z06 with 21” rears with their 25 sidewall radio (In its softest setting).

But away from my personal thoughts and experiences — though we are definitely ordering our 2027 GTS Sports Turismo with the 21” RS Spyders, active ride, and RWS, here is the one media article that to us summarizes wells this thread’s major question — and if one looks at the articles pictures, it is writen about their GTS driving experience on 21” OEM wheels.

What really marks this GTS out over the old car, however, is Active Ride. Yes, another Porsche that requires optioning up to make the best of it. And sure, it was hardly like the first Taycan struggled when it came to ride and handling. But the way the new electro-hydraulic system can retain such unerring composure and comfort, under considerable load or duress, is genuinely remarkable. On the crummy Berkshire B roads we often drive cars, tarmac that can make even the very best flounder and fidget, the GTS honestly glides like it’s on a bowling green. Unperturbed, unflustered, unrelenting.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=2106211

 

[Beattie]

I think I’m pretty much sold. Nice write up from piston heads. The one option I may add is the PCCB’s to address the brake issue. I’ve currently got the PSCB’s which I don’t find work that well.

 

[SoccerMan94043]

I think I’m pretty much sold. Nice write up from piston heads. The one option I may add is the PCCB’s to address the brake issue. I’ve currently got the PSCB’s which I don’t find work that well.

I don't have much experience with Porsche and I'm not going to the track, but standard brakes are fine to me. When mixed with regen, I stop plenty fast.

 

[Beattie]

I don't have much experience with Porsche and I'm not going to the track, but standard brakes are fine to me. When mixed with regen, I stop plenty fast.

I’m not tracking either. But I’ve done some high speed hard brakes and have been concerned at the lack of stopping power with the PSCB’s. I’ve heard the steel brakes might be better, but I don’t like the rust on the discs after washing and then going on the wheels. So it’s either PSCB’s or PCCB’s which I fancy a change.

 

[SoccerMan94043]

I’m not tracking either. But I’ve done some high speed hard brakes and have been concerned at the lack of stopping power with the PSCB’s. I’ve heard the steel brakes might be better, but I don’t like the rust on the discs after washing and then going on the wheels. So it’s either PSCB’s or PCCB’s which I fancy a change.

There are a few things you can spray on the rotors to protect them from wash rust.

 

[Fun TC Driving]

Or when they start to look rusty, in a non traffic area, simultaneously ride the throttle and brake pedal for 50 yards a couple of times. I also do this after I wash the car to dry out the pads and the rotors.

 

[Beattie]

I use Bilt Hamber Atomac on my Boxster discs after wash, and whilst it does reduce the surface rust, it doesn’t eliminate it. I find it very frustrating on my black spyder r/s wheels. It probably wouldn’t bother most people but I can’t not see it.

 

[SoccerMan94043]

Never bring your car out in wet weather or wash it?

Brakestands sound more fun though.

 

[Beattie]

Never bring your car out in wet weather or wash it?

Brakestands sound more fun though.

That would be the answer. Except I like driving too much. I live in the UK where it rains more than it’s dry. My car never stays clean very long. I guess I’ve just contradicted myself with regards to the brake dust issue.

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