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A long story, but hopefully sharing my experience will be useful to others buying their first EV and looking at home charging methods and tariffs. All of this was new to me. Please let me know if you found a better option.
Background
I recently replaced my 911 C4S with a Taycan 4S. I’d wanted a 911 since I had one on my bedroom wall as a kid. The 911 gave me memories of some great drives, but was spending more time cosseted in the garage, being used only as a treat. I wanted something more usable. If I could afford a different car for every day of the week, one of those would definitely be a naturally aspirated 911. Almost nothing beats being connected to a 911.
Home Charging Methods & Tariffs in the UK
I soon realised that while faster, public charging costs are up to 10x those of the cheapest home rate. Just to be safe, I had acquired around 8 new charge point apps and RFID cards before my first long trip in the Taycan.
After comparing the EV and day rates, and installation requirements of Octopus, EDF, British Gas and OVO, I plumped for OVO Charge Anytime. At 10p, their EV rate isn’t the cheapest, but, swings and roundabouts, most day rates are higher than OVO’s 30p - which matches the cheapest public charge rate I had found (other than secret free ones). And for some EVs, including Taycan, the OVO physical installation requirements are zero.
The cheapest EV rate is provided by Octopus Intelligence - 7.5p for a narrow 6hr overnight period. But their day rate is 40p, compared to OVO’s 30p. Also, Octopus seem to have a one size fits all charger installation requirement,where they want to run additional electric and data cables from your smart meter to one of their specific compatible chargers. I already had a 40 amp supply to my separate garage and didn’t fancy digging up the drive to lay more cables. Also, the Taycan came with the dumb Porsche Mobile Connect Charger, so I didn’t want/need to buy another charger.
The cheapest Octopus rate of 7.5p isn’t yet available to Taycan drivers, so meanwhile they’ll sell you their ‘Go’ product, with a 9.5p EV rate and a 40p day rate. British Gas wanted to fit a British Gas specific Smart Meter, despite SMETS2 meters allegedly being compatible with all suppliers.
OVO Charge Anytime (10p EV rate, 30p standard ) is a fairly new product. Unlike the others, it relies on an app and integration with a compatible Car rather than with a ‘smart’ charger. If your car isn’t compatible, a specific smart charger is required. Fortunately the Taycan is compatible - although in seeking verbal confirmation of this, their Customer Service team initially said it may not be and essentially, I had to suck it and see. I had to escalate to get the web site info confirmed before switching from EON to OVO. EON will sell you and install a charger, but don’t yet have a reduced tariff for EVs(!).
I didn’t yet have a smart meter, having resisted to avoid the possibility of supplier tie in. To avoid wait times, forums recommended getting your existing supplier rather than one with a specific EV tariff to install a smart meter before switching. The lead time for EON to install a smart meter was only 2 weeks rather than the months that other providers with in demand EV tariffs can take.
EON’s smart meter installation was smooth and despite our rural location, connectivity was instant.
Once the smart meter was installed, I switched from EON to OVO, having first paid off the outstanding EON balance to avoid any snags there. The switch to OVO was completed within 2 days and was trouble free.
The day following the switch, I downloaded and installed the OVO Charge Anytime app. This integrates with your OVO Account, your Porsche Connect/My Porsche account and another OVO/SSE system called Kaluza.
In the OVO Charge Anytime app you schedule your required charge percentage and completion time. Any profiles/timers on your Taycan will override those you instruct in the app. As the product name implies, charging can occur Anytime and isn’t necessarily restricted to a narrow overnight window. The Kaluza system will talk to your car to complete your charging instruction and arrange charging according to supplier capacity - which may not just be overnight. E.g. if you plug in at 6pm with target completion of 9am it can spread the charge across that period, at the reduced rate. If you want to override your schedule, you can set the app to start an ad-hoc urgent charge, at the 30p rather than 10p rate.
I definitely wasn’t expecting an integration across multiple systems and the car to work first time, but it just did.
I’ve not yet seen my first monthly bill with charging credit applied (the back office OVO and Kaluza systems log your EV charging hours and deduct 20p from the standard 30p unit cost). But for me this proved that with a simple 32 amp supply to a commando socket, you can use a dumb charger to charge a Taycan at 10p per unit, while still having a standard day rate, and avoiding tie in to suppliers and their specific and expensive smart chargers and installation costs. The market is young and evolving, todays ‘smart’ chargers will be overtaken.
In my case I’m using the dumb but very expensive Porsche charger, others are available for a few hundred pounds. Similarly you can get a lead to extend the Porsche one way cheaper than the £700 they charge.
Even if you can only charge with a 13amp plug, the OVO tariff may still be worthwhile.
Background
I recently replaced my 911 C4S with a Taycan 4S. I’d wanted a 911 since I had one on my bedroom wall as a kid. The 911 gave me memories of some great drives, but was spending more time cosseted in the garage, being used only as a treat. I wanted something more usable. If I could afford a different car for every day of the week, one of those would definitely be a naturally aspirated 911. Almost nothing beats being connected to a 911.
Home Charging Methods & Tariffs in the UK
I soon realised that while faster, public charging costs are up to 10x those of the cheapest home rate. Just to be safe, I had acquired around 8 new charge point apps and RFID cards before my first long trip in the Taycan.
After comparing the EV and day rates, and installation requirements of Octopus, EDF, British Gas and OVO, I plumped for OVO Charge Anytime. At 10p, their EV rate isn’t the cheapest, but, swings and roundabouts, most day rates are higher than OVO’s 30p - which matches the cheapest public charge rate I had found (other than secret free ones). And for some EVs, including Taycan, the OVO physical installation requirements are zero.
The cheapest EV rate is provided by Octopus Intelligence - 7.5p for a narrow 6hr overnight period. But their day rate is 40p, compared to OVO’s 30p. Also, Octopus seem to have a one size fits all charger installation requirement,where they want to run additional electric and data cables from your smart meter to one of their specific compatible chargers. I already had a 40 amp supply to my separate garage and didn’t fancy digging up the drive to lay more cables. Also, the Taycan came with the dumb Porsche Mobile Connect Charger, so I didn’t want/need to buy another charger.
The cheapest Octopus rate of 7.5p isn’t yet available to Taycan drivers, so meanwhile they’ll sell you their ‘Go’ product, with a 9.5p EV rate and a 40p day rate. British Gas wanted to fit a British Gas specific Smart Meter, despite SMETS2 meters allegedly being compatible with all suppliers.
OVO Charge Anytime (10p EV rate, 30p standard ) is a fairly new product. Unlike the others, it relies on an app and integration with a compatible Car rather than with a ‘smart’ charger. If your car isn’t compatible, a specific smart charger is required. Fortunately the Taycan is compatible - although in seeking verbal confirmation of this, their Customer Service team initially said it may not be and essentially, I had to suck it and see. I had to escalate to get the web site info confirmed before switching from EON to OVO. EON will sell you and install a charger, but don’t yet have a reduced tariff for EVs(!).
I didn’t yet have a smart meter, having resisted to avoid the possibility of supplier tie in. To avoid wait times, forums recommended getting your existing supplier rather than one with a specific EV tariff to install a smart meter before switching. The lead time for EON to install a smart meter was only 2 weeks rather than the months that other providers with in demand EV tariffs can take.
EON’s smart meter installation was smooth and despite our rural location, connectivity was instant.
Once the smart meter was installed, I switched from EON to OVO, having first paid off the outstanding EON balance to avoid any snags there. The switch to OVO was completed within 2 days and was trouble free.
The day following the switch, I downloaded and installed the OVO Charge Anytime app. This integrates with your OVO Account, your Porsche Connect/My Porsche account and another OVO/SSE system called Kaluza.
In the OVO Charge Anytime app you schedule your required charge percentage and completion time. Any profiles/timers on your Taycan will override those you instruct in the app. As the product name implies, charging can occur Anytime and isn’t necessarily restricted to a narrow overnight window. The Kaluza system will talk to your car to complete your charging instruction and arrange charging according to supplier capacity - which may not just be overnight. E.g. if you plug in at 6pm with target completion of 9am it can spread the charge across that period, at the reduced rate. If you want to override your schedule, you can set the app to start an ad-hoc urgent charge, at the 30p rather than 10p rate.
I definitely wasn’t expecting an integration across multiple systems and the car to work first time, but it just did.
I’ve not yet seen my first monthly bill with charging credit applied (the back office OVO and Kaluza systems log your EV charging hours and deduct 20p from the standard 30p unit cost). But for me this proved that with a simple 32 amp supply to a commando socket, you can use a dumb charger to charge a Taycan at 10p per unit, while still having a standard day rate, and avoiding tie in to suppliers and their specific and expensive smart chargers and installation costs. The market is young and evolving, todays ‘smart’ chargers will be overtaken.
In my case I’m using the dumb but very expensive Porsche charger, others are available for a few hundred pounds. Similarly you can get a lead to extend the Porsche one way cheaper than the £700 they charge.
Even if you can only charge with a 13amp plug, the OVO tariff may still be worthwhile.
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