Lemon Law

[george d]

Hello fellow Taycan owners. I was just wondering: does anybody know anything about being awarded money from Porsche regarding Taycan/Lemon Law? With regard to the whole “battery may explode, needs to be replaced“ recall. What I’m asking is: is there money being awarded in general, even without being in the shop?

Dont get me wrong. Love my Taycan. Wouldn’t sell it, trade in, etc.

But of course, with this recall hanging over us, it does make reselling a bit more difficult and I’m sure it takes some money off of the sales price.

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[carlsbad]

Each State in the USA has its own lemon law parameters that apply to every vehicle (when you say Porsche lemon law that sounds like you are referring to a manufacturer’s policy to deal with the battery issue)

I am in California and in our state the lemon law and the basic parameters are:


if, within the first 18 months or 18,000 miles (whichever comes first), any of these occur:

• 4+ repair attempts for the same problem
  OR
• 2+ repair attempts for a defect that could cause serious injury or death (brakes, steering, airbags, etc.)
  OR
• 30+ total days out of service for any warranty repairs
• 
  If the car qualifies, the manufacturer must provide:
  
  
  • Replacement vehicle
    OR
  • Refund
    
    Refund typically includes:
    
    
    
  • Down payment
  • Monthly payments
  • Registration & taxes
  • Towing/rental costs
  • Payoff of remaining loan balance
    
    They can deduct a “mileage offset” for use before the first repair attempt.
    
    I used the lemon law on my first 25 taycan 4s and everything was handled smoothly with porsche on the buyback process. It took a couple months to get the last check (first check received when car turned in, separate procedure to get a refund on wheel warranty from dealer, and a third and final check from Porsche leasing ). I then bought a 25 taycan gts and with about 3,000 miles thus far have not experienced the issues I had in my first 4,000 miles with the 4s where it spent more time at the dealer than with me so I qualified under the 30 days in the shop parameter
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[Phil Prosapio]

Check with your state attorney general’s office as to requirements for proceeding with a lemon law claim.
Here in Minnesota the basics are the vehicle needs to have been in for a warranty covered repair three times without resolution. Or, in for service for the same issue more for thirty days in total without a solution. There’s a lot more as well.
I had a Panamera 4S ehybrid a couple of years ago that actually qualified and PCNA paid me and local dealership bought back the car.
My wife's 2025 Volvo EX 90 has been an absolute electrical nightmare but, it doesn’t currently meet the requirements for proceeding with a lemon law claim. Unfortunately, there is no category for just being a terrible nuisance to deal with for the first six months.

 

[SoccerMan94043]

Each State in the USA has its own lemon law parameters that apply to every vehicle (when you say Porsche lemon law that sounds like you are referring to a manufacturer’s policy to deal with the battery issue)

I am in California and in our state the lemon law and the basic parameters are:


if, within the first 18 months or 18,000 miles (whichever comes first), any of these occur:

• 4+ repair attempts for the same problem
  OR
• 2+ repair attempts for a defect that could cause serious injury or death (brakes, steering, airbags, etc.)
  OR
• 30+ total days out of service for any warranty repairs
• 
  If the car qualifies, the manufacturer must provide:
  
  • Replacement vehicle
    OR
  • Refund
    
    Refund typically includes:
    
    
    
  • Down payment
  • Monthly payments
  • Registration & taxes
  • Towing/rental costs
  • Payoff of remaining loan balance
    
    They can deduct a “mileage offset” for use before the first repair attempt.
    
    I used the lemon law on my first 25 taycan 4s and everything was handled smoothly with porsche on the buyback process. It took a couple months to get the last check (first check received when car turned in, separate procedure to get a refund on wheel warranty from dealer, and a third and final check from Porsche leasing ). I then bought a 25 taycan gts and with about 3,000 miles thus far have not experienced the issues I had in my first 4,000 miles with the 4s where it spent more time at the dealer than with me so I qualified under the 30 days in the shop parameter

Do you know if the Lemon Law in CA applies when you buy a CPO (or used) and still within the 18 months / 18K miles? I have no problems (finger's crossed) and just curious (I had heard it does not, but have no facts).

 

[carlsbad]

Yes — in California, Lemon Law can apply to a CPO or used vehicle, but not because of the 18 months / 18,000 miles rule.
A used or CPO vehicle can qualify under CA Lemon Law if:

• It was sold with a manufacturer-backed warranty (CPO warranty counts)
• Or it still has the original factory warranty
• And it develops a substantial defect
• And the dealer/manufacturer can’t fix it after a reasonable number of attempts

You just don’t get the automatic presumption rules — you have to prove “reasonable attempts” without the statutory shortcut.

• Your case relies on:
  • Repair history
  • Severity of defect
  • Number of attempts
  • Time out of service
  • Manufacturer’s opportunity to fix

In 2023 and in 2024 California courts clarified this.

California courts clarified and strengthened that CPO and used buyers DO have Lemon Law rights when a manufacturer warranty applies, even if the defect existed before purchase — as long as it was covered and not disclosed.


One Exception

If the car was sold “as-is” with no manufacturer warranty, Lemon Law usually does NOT apply.

 

[ovonrein]

" Time out of service " From all the posts on this forum, this seems to be one of the biggest issues. Is this issue addressed by Porsche supplying an equivalent loaner?

 

[Mr.Smith]

Fortunately you're in California so you're already ahead of the game. Ive dealt with multiple buybacks.

A good lemon law attorney will give you a free consultation, give you a snapshot of your case.
In 2025, the law changed. You have to write a letter to the manufacturer to buy back the car, respond in 30 days, before an attorney can pursue a buyback and civil penalties of up $200k, all of your payments, down payment, registration.
But you need to get an attorney to guide you properly though this. Always no charge to you.

PM for a referral and details

 

[Mr.Smith]

Do you know if the Lemon Law in CA applies when you buy a CPO (or used) and still within the 18 months / 18K miles? I have no problems (finger's crossed) and just curious (I had heard it does not, but have no facts).

If your car was purchased from an AZ dealer, the AZ lemon law applies, not California laws.
California dealer has to sell the car.

Just like Doc fees. California dealers are capped at $85, not out of state selling to a California buyer

 

[69Mach390]

What I’m asking is: is there money being awarded in general, even without being in the shop?

No.

With regard to the whole “battery may explode, needs to be replaced“ recall.

Not sure what you’re referring to.

 

[george d]

I’d like to make a distinction: I’m not talking about my car being a lemon. I actually love it and it works beautifully. But I have heard that there is settlement money available to compensate for the diminished sale price due to the fact that it is well known to have this battery recall. So that is my question: has anybody heard of this or taken part in such a settlement? I am in California.

 

[69Mach390]

I’d like to make a distinction: I’m not talking about my car being a lemon. I actually love it and it works beautifully. But I have heard that there is settlement money available to compensate for the diminished sale price due to the fact that it is well known to have this battery recall. So that is my question: has anybody heard of this or taken part in such a settlement? I am in California.

No. Cars have recalls all the time. Extremely rare that one involves a diminished value claim. In super rare circumstances there is a buyout (you turn in the car for money). I’m thinking of VW dieselgate and Chevy Bolts as examples.

And again, what recall?

 

[george d]

ARB6/ARB7 Porsche‘s internal recall code.

NHTSA code is 24V –732000

 

[69Mach390]

ARB6/ARB7 Porsche‘s internal recall code.

NHTSA code is 24V –732000

That recall is over a year old. And no, there were no checks mailed out as a part of it nor expected compensation.

Was your car a part of the recall? Did you buy it new or used?

 

[george d]

Yes, my car was part of the recall and I bought it used one year ago.

 

[69Mach390]

Yes, my car was part of the recall and I bought it used one year ago.

So you bought a used car after the recall was announced.

Even if there were checks to be given out, you definitely wouldn’t qualify.

If anything you BENEFITED from the low resale value.

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