Porsche route planner charging

[Oglehog]

So planning a trip from London to just past Valencia in Spain and wanted to get some real world experience of the journey planner with charging stops.

it offers a route with stops planned along the way varying from 10 mins to half an hour. obviously the number and duration of stops depends on location and size of the charger. My questions are:

- Overall how good have people found the planner?

- If I charge for longer than the suggested period will it re calculate the rest of the route?

- when it suggests I will arrive with a given charge (overnight stop 10% for example) How accurate have people found it?

- Lastly how does it calculate the energy used, is it assuming I’ll be driving like a Nun on Sunday? And what happens if said nun keeps stabbing the push to pass?

any insights gratefully received.

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[anonymouse]

The built-in planner is OK, and fine for day-to-day driving, but I do all my European trips with A Better Route Planner. Much more sophisticated than the Porsche planner. Takes a little while to learn but it is very customisable - you can tell it how fast you typically go (eg 5% above or indeed below speed limit), how the car is loaded etc. It takes weather into account - in one extreme case of headwind, the Porsche planner was underestimating a journey by 30-40%! You can even make an online connection so it monitors your charge level. You can specify your favourite chargers eg mine is set to prefer Ionity and Fastned, with Tesla as an option (it will use all available networks as needed).

Then when I'm on the road I just pop the next stage from the ABRP plan into the satnav. If I stay longer, ABRP (on my phone) sees that I have a higher charge level and adjusts the plan.

ABRP will generate you a plan which by default optimises the travel time. You should almost never charge above 80-90%, and ABRP will run you down to about 20% so you get the fastest part of the charging curve.

A typical Euro trip will involve stopping for about 15 mins every 1.5-2 hours, or more frequently if you prefer. By coincidence this is what it says you should be doing as breaks, to keep safe, in the UK Highway Code. Ignore the range bores saying they need 500 miles of range - in practice I breeze across Europe with rarely more than 150 miles between stops, usually much less. Short breaks = safer driving (and empty bladders, full stomachs, stretched legs etc). And the Taycan has blindlngly fast charging if you get the right network at the right battery temp / charge level. In general - peak travel times and NL excepted - European highways have excellent charging infrastructure with plenty of 150kW+ chargers, and rarely at capacity.

An overnight charge is a bonus. Make sure you do NOT have your next destination programmed when you stop overnight, because the Porsche software stupidly says "I can see a charging stop tomorrow so I don't need to charge overnight". But on long journeys it's also possible to stay at a hotel with a very fast charger (we like Valk and Novotel) and fill up over breakfast or when you get in at night.

If you are planning a summer trip make sure you check https://www.bison-fute.gouv.fr/ for the do-not-even-attempt-it days when Paris decamps to the South and back.

 

[anonymouse]

Here is an illustration of an ABRP plan for London-Valencia -- not refined except to fix its violation of Rule 1 for Eurotrips, "don't go near Paris", by adding Ionity Champfleury as a stop. Overnight stops would of course give you a different plan.

For Spain of course there are other potential routes eg the Brittany ferries to Caen or Bilbao, depending on what your start point in the UK is. The slowest part of any Euro trip is the M25 although maybe when the EU fingerprinting checkpoint is installed the bottleneck might move to Folkestone...

 

[W1NGE]

So planning a trip from London to just past Valencia in Spain and wanted to get some real world experience of the journey planner with charging stops.

it offers a route with stops planned along the way varying from 10 mins to half an hour. obviously the number and duration of stops depends on location and size of the charger. My questions are:

- Overall how good have people found the planner?

- If I charge for longer than the suggested period will it re calculate the rest of the route?

- when it suggests I will arrive with a given charge (overnight stop 10% for example) How accurate have people found it?

- Lastly how does it calculate the energy used, is it assuming I’ll be driving like a Nun on Sunday? And what happens if said nun keeps stabbing the push to pass?

any insights gratefully received.

Energy used will be based on the speed limits. If you intend driving like you stole it all bets are off but the Charging Planner will keep up as it monitors the battery depletion.

 

[Jasper4S]

My experience is to not overthink and plan too much. Did a couple of road trips like yours, and almost never had the stops that were plannend before the trip. Your PCM nav is smart enough to adjust charging stops along the way. One minute of traffic rush, one d-toir, one toilet stop too much means everything from that point is plannend wrong. Just go, it’s west Europe, plenty charge option

I stayed at Moraira, spain last year, plenty fast chargers, and from the border to Valencia/Alicante you’ll come across a couple of Ionity, and many others. Most supermarkets have chargers too.

Where around Valencia will you go to? Don’t need an answer, but investigate what kind of chargers are in that area, that way you know if you want to arrive with a SoC of 5%, 10%, 50% etc.

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