Taycan with 115k km

[romannet]

Hello all, I want taycan for a long time and finally i have conditions to get one. At this point I can get one with 115k km. It is 4s, 2021 (model year 2022) performance batery and except panorama it has all o ever wanted. I did not see it in person yet but have some questuons:
1) based on pictures 360 camera system is one of the worst i have seen (my guess would be year 2010 or similar). Is it really suchu bad or just wrong photo?
2) well 115k km - it is a lot. Car has waranty of course,but that number concerns me a lot. Considering year, km and others..can it ve potential problem?
It is for really good price otherwise i would not consider it, bur owner need to pay for new macan, so needs to sell it asap.
What do you think? Shall i skip or give it a try?

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[chun]

Hello all, I want taycan for a long time and finally i have conditions to get one. At this point I can get one with 115k km. It is 4s, 2021 (model year 2022) performance batery and except panorama it has all o ever wanted. I did not see it in person yet but have some questuons:
1) based on pictures 360 camera system is one of the worst i have seen (my guess would be year 2010 or similar). Is it really suchu bad or just wrong photo?
2) well 115k km - it is a lot. Car has waranty of course,but that number concerns me a lot. Considering year, km and others..can it ve potential problem?
It is for really good price otherwise i would not consider it, bur owner need to pay for new macan, so needs to sell it asap.
What do you think? Shall i skip or give it a try?

Performance battery is the small battery.
What you should want is performance plus battery.

You should want the car the have the 150kw convertor, to enable fast charging at 400v stations.

Now onto the questions:
1. yes, cameras are shit, as bad as 2010 ones. Yes.
2. I think battery is in warranty up to 160k or so or up to 8 years, whichever comes first. Make of that what you will.
With that kind of use, 115k km, brake discs are supposed to be changed in 5-10k km max (about 125k km), as far as I know. That can be quit expensive, if they are the coated or ceramic ones. Another thing to account for.

bur owner need to pay for new macan, so needs to sell it asap.

I would never buy any car under this pretext. Sounds like bullshit.

I would also not buy any taycan that is not Porsche Approved, directly from porsche. Buying from a 3rd party person, you might have to check if warranty will even be transferable.

You should also have to do a battery state of health report, which dealers would do for free, but since you buy from 3rd party, you'd have to pay out of pocket. If battery is significantly under 90% SoH, i wouldn't buy it.

It's a buyers market, unless the car is very cheap, say 25-35k, i wouldn't buy it, and look for better instead. But that's my opinion.

Taycans can have many problems, so I wouldn't buy one with such high mileage unless it's coming directly from porsche and with warranty, after they have already done some work on it: brake discs replacement, battery checks, general maintenance, etc.

 

[romannet]

Performance battery is the small battery.
What you should want is performance plus battery.

You should want the car the have the 150kw convertor, to enable fast charging at 400v stations.

Now onto the questions:
1. yes, cameras are shit, as bad as 2010 ones. Yes.
2. I think battery is in warranty up to 160k or so or up to 8 years, whichever comes first. Make of that what you will.
With that kind of use, 115k km, brake discs are supposed to be changed in 5-10k km max (about 125k km), as far as I know. That can be quit expensive, if they are the coated or ceramic ones. Another thing to account for.

I would never buy any car under this pretext. Sounds like bullshit.

I would also not buy any taycan that is not Porsche Approved, directly from porsche. Buying from a 3rd party person, you might have to check if warranty will even be transferable.

You should also have to do a battery state of health report, which dealers would do for free, but since you buy from 3rd party, you'd have to pay out of pocket. If battery is significantly under 90% SoH, i wouldn't buy it.

It's a buyers market, unless the car is very cheap, say 25-35k, i wouldn't buy it, and look for better instead. But that's my opinion.

Taycans can have many problems, so I wouldn't buy one with such high mileage unless it's coming directly from porsche and with warranty, after they have already done some work on it: brake discs replacement, battery checks, general maintenance, etc.

Thank you. Few anwers- it is big battery - my mistake.
It is sold by company who had is as business car and need to swap it. (Cannot confirm or deny, they are not car sellers)
Before purchase for sure it will be checked by independent technician and it will have all certificates from porsche (warranty included).
Actually that is reason why I am asking. On one side it is nice optioned car for good price (on our market) but these km are warring me.
So thank you for opinion

 

[Avantgarde]

Thank you. Few anwers- it is big battery - my mistake.
It is sold by company who had is as business car and need to swap it. (Cannot confirm or deny, they are not car sellers)
Before purchase for sure it will be checked by independent technician and it will have all certificates from porsche (warranty included).
Actually that is reason why I am asking. On one side it is nice optioned car for good price (on our market) but these km are warring me.
So thank you for opinion

Here are my two cents. It's not secret Taycan is not the most reliable EV out there. HV battery is one of the weak links (and massively expensive to fix once the battery warranty, which is 8 years/100K miles in most markets, expires).

However my observation is a lot of Taycan's reliability issues do not have a relationship with how many KM/Miles the car is driven. There are many many 10K mile cars having HV failures, heater failures or 22kw charger failures. The battery degregetion due to excessive miles, which many of us naturally fear, does not seem to be the real issue, you either have a faulty battery or not and the failure probability does not seem to change based on how many miles you put on the battery. So if you are not planning put too many miles on the car to trip the KM limit on the warranty (160K?) before the 8yr warranty period expires, I am inclined to think high KM may not be that big of a deal as many fear.

The only other high priced wear & tear component that comes to mind is the 2-speed gearbox, which scares me to be honest, as there are instances of failure on that. However even that does not seem to be driven by how much the car is driven (several transmission failure examples I've seen online happened to low milage cars).

Not sure if this helps with your decision.

 

[romannet]

I am happy for any opinion so thank you. Well normally i would not have such questions but:
It will be my first ev. Untill now i had audi and lexus ane lets be honest, lexus is quite reliable. I think based on my normal Daily drives i will get 160k close to end of warranty anyway, but the issue i have with that is after this km and end of warranty car can be impossible to sell. I think it is difference when you have end of warranty and 80k km or 180k km for example. In any case rhe main point how car has been driven and charged more then km driven.
The price is of course different question. On our market this is the cheapest one. On german market it is also In down price tag but there have around 200k+ for same price. Yep..here In europe these cars are expensive. What a paradox

 

[romannet]

Thank you for comment. I have decided to send there independent technician who checked a lot of taycans already. Based on output i will decide, but if it will not be perfect plus some extra discount i will probably look elsewhere

 

[whitex]

Like any other car, it’s too risky to buy them over xxx km..unless the price is very very good or the car is in mint condition anyway and there is extended warranty that covers 100% of parts..sometimes private warranties don’t do that.. at the end of the story, spending less before is highly a spending more later!

The mileage on EVs don't matter as much as on ICE cars, unless they get you passed some warranty threshold. The main factor affected by the mileage is battery degradation, which it's turning out much lower than expected for many EVs. This one has battery warranty left on it too, so even less worry about it.

As for the comment from @chun about the brakes, I would have them inspected. Depending on how the car is driven, the brakes may have plenty of life left on them, since Taycans use regenerative braking for 98% of decelerations. I suspect that unless you track the Taycan, the ceramics will outlive the car. PSCB's might too.

 

[romannet]

Yep that is plan. If degradation of batter will not be under 90% and all other staff will be perfect i may conser it for proper price. On the other side i am not in Harry for buying so if there will be any little concerns then will pass it

 

[whitex]

If mileage doesn’t matter, so why bother then?
A car, EV or not that has been driven 100k km, and who know how, it’s never a good deal..plus, the battery loses range and the warranty is almost at the end (for who always think about the battery, I don’t!)..while an ICE car, if with high mileage, it just needs few parts to be replaced..nothing new! so my opinion is always, if there are no money, don’t buy.

Even on ICE cars. 100,000km of highway commuting wears the car much less than 10,000km on a race track. Unless you know the usage pattern of the car, you really cannot tell. Buying used always has some element of added risk as compared to buying brand new. In this case there is 4 year and 45,000km of battery warranty left - a lot of people don't drive even that much in 4 years. EV batteries have been showing less degradation than expected, and they last well beyond the 8 years. If you get the car for half price of new, you save more than enough to buy a new battery if the old one dies. Could it turn out to be a nightmare spending more time in the shop than on the road, sure - but we've seen this happen to people buying brand new Taycans too, so nothing is risk free. Everyone must evaluate and decide risks they are willing to take in life.

 

[mpaulus007]

Mine has 125K KM and no issues at all. I would however only buy with Porsche warranty covering for ANY failures. Gives you peace of mind

 

[romannet]

Mine has 125K KM and no issues at all. I would however only buy with Porsche warranty covering for ANY failures. Gives you peace of mind

yep that is the plan. as a part of it is also porsche approved warranty for 1 year so can extend it every year. thank you for comment

 

[romannet]

Hi all, firstly thank you for all opinions, just FYI I have decided to not go for this taycan. The last warning was when i just spoke with the owner about the technician visit and he told me car is on business trip in italy, then will take him to germany to pick up new macan and then back. even if this would be the case, current 115k would be +10 in just month or so. Basically this is no go for me. thanks again for experience sharing

 

[mpaulus007]

current 115k would be +10 in just month or so.

This is where the Taycan is great: Roadmonster. If he trades for an inferior Macan lucky you! 115k km or 125k km: No difference. Great car!

 

[romannet]

This is where the Taycan is great: Roadmonster. If he trades for an inferior Macan lucky you! 115k km or 125k km: No difference. Great car!

yes I know, but at this point where I am not fully confident in seller + the km driven untill it would be handovered, I pass this one.

 

[chun]

This is where the Taycan is great: Roadmonster. If he trades for an inferior Macan lucky you! 115k km or 125k km: No difference. Great car!

It is a difference in terms of battery warranty; it’s quite a bit closer to being out of warranty. And in a taycan; it means quite a bit closer to not having a car anymore, when it brakes out of warranty

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