I'm the idiot whose Taycan was towed after running the SOC to 0%

[SWORDER]

So no one's asked....

Do you have PIRM for your Taycan and if so, were you using it?

No, I hadn't even heard of PIRM until you just mentioned it. I was using Waze.

Love your avatar BTW.

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[Brazz]

But it is the same with any car. My 500E could do about 350 miles on a tankful but also just over 200 when pressing on. It was a big enough difference to work out an optimum speed to reduce the number of fuel stops on my drives to and from where I was working in France.
High speed using more energy is not a new thing or specific to EVs but EVs have a readout which most IC engine'd cars haven't so most people don't seem to have noticed.

Point well taken. I guess ignorance is bliss (not seeing the fuel consumption)…. Also, I have less anxiety in my ICE because gas is everywhere versus a treasure hunt for a working EV stop. But considering all that, don’t be confused by my statements, I LOVE my Porsche and would buy it again tomorrow. I was just lamenting on speed to range consumption.

 

[whitex]

Potential energy increase is around 6kWh or 7% of your usable battery. 90mph is what probably killed it.

90+ mphs speed is definitely what killed the range. The key in situations like this is to watch the range, and slow down towards the end to make you you arrive above 0% at the next charger. I've done things like this in a Tesla, and 90+mph cuts the range almost in half, especially going up in elevation.

PS> Does the Taycan have a live estimate of SOC % at the destination like Teslas do? (yep, I'm still waiting for a CTT allocation, 8 months and counting...).

 

[Jhenson29]

Does the Taycan have a live estimate of SOC % at the destination like Teslas do?

I think so. I only drive it local, so I don’t pay much attention. But I do use the navigation and I’m pretty sure I saw that.

Edit: yes, see below.

 

[taycan_sportturismo]

I had a 2004 W211 AMG E55 Kompressor Estate...

Automatic like from me!

 

[B61]

PS> Does the Taycan have a live estimate of SOC % at the destination like Teslas do? (yep, I'm still waiting for a CTT allocation, 8 months and counting...).

Yes, it does.
Estimated SOC% is also change during driving.

 

[whitex]

Edit: yes, see below.

Yes, it does.
Estimated SOC% is also change during driving.

Perfect. That is the number to keep an eye on whenever driving long distances. I've used that on Tesla road-trips, never got stranded. Once I had to drive a mile or two doing 55mph in an 80mph speed limit to arrive with 3% SOC because I chose to cruise at at a 100mph for over an hour prior to that, but that beats a tow truck experience. The only time I had a scare was when an exit off a highway was closed and I had to do an extra 12 miles out of my way to circle back to the charger, but taking the side roads at ~35mph gave me the extra range (made me aim at 5% remaining at next charger for further trips).

EDIT: I found the consumption graph from a fast cruising trip between chargers. I slowed down where you see it red for a couple of miles, then sped up as I realized I had enough juice to reach the charger (though the car was already in limited power mode, so it was less spirited driving). Anyways, the difference between the grey line (projected remaining range) and the green/yellow/red line is a real life illustration of what cruising at high speeds does to your range. I think on this leg the difference was going 80mph (speed limit) vs. 100mph. I obviously knew from prior experience to charge higher than recommended in order to accommodate my driving style preference. I preferred when chargers were closer to each other, so I didn't have to charge to above 90%, it it is painfully slow in a Tesla (as I imagine is in a Taycan too).

 

[FredG]

@SWORDER I haven’t done any long distance trips but have played with the PCM nav to setup a long distance trip and it seems to do a good job routing and calculating best EV chargers to use, how long to charge for, and range left after each leg of the trip;
I would suggest using it in conjunction with waze on a future trip to get best of both worlds. PCM Nav in gauge cluster and waze in center display?

 

[whitex]

Out of curiosity, is there a site out there like https://www.evtripplanner.com/ but with CCS chargers and cars like Taycan? It works really well for Tesla cars, taking under consideration things like weather (temp, wind), elevations, payload, type of car, tires, etc. I have not tried it in a couple of years, but in the past it was more accurate than Tesla's own navigation. I did a coast to round trip coast-to-coast using this site and it was amazingly accurate.

 

[Scandinavian]

Out of curiosity, is there a site out there like https://www.evtripplanner.com/ but with CCS chargers and cars like Taycan? It works really well for Tesla cars, taking under consideration things like weather (temp, wind), elevations, payload, type of car, tires, etc. I have not tried it in a couple of years, but in the past it was more accurate than Tesla's own navigation. I did a coast to round trip coast-to-coast using this site and it was amazingly accurate.

Have you tried A Better Route Planner app?? Seems one of the best around, at least here in Europe.

 

[SolitaryMan]

Subscribing to hear how @Nmoranda enjoyed her week at the river house, or so I know to contact the local police if we don’t hear back from her.

 

[Nmoranda]

Subscribing to hear how @Nmoranda enjoyed her week at the river house, or so I know to contact the local police if we don’t hear back from her.

We just got married in Vegas so now I’m officially off the market. I quit my boring exec job and decided to serve at Hooters now as it gives me more flexibility to be with my new honey. I’ve switched to beer instead of vodka/soda because I get the beer for free. I’m sure I won’t gain weight from it because I’m busy with my extra curricular activities “wink wink”.

OP- I do apologize for turning your helpful thread into a story of my Walmart rendezvous and new love interest. ?

 

[buruburu]

No, I hadn't even heard of PIRM until you just mentioned it. I was using Waze.

Love your avatar BTW.

PIRM is the Porsche Intelligent Range Manager that's an additional option. People have different thoughts on whether or not it's useful.

Driving an EV especially in hilly / mountainous parts of the work is definitely very different. When you're going down hill, you're basically gaining range, but going up you're losing much more since most range calculations is assuming you're on relative flat ground. PIRM helps in this situation as navigation is able to take this into consideration.

As some other folks have suggested, A Better Route Planner is a great resource to do trip planning as it take into consideration of elevation and it can also optimize your stops for fastest DC charging as well.

 

[feye]

There's this other EV maker called Lucid that has a 500 mile range. Their vehicles are too ugly to drive, in my opinion, but the fact that they can get 500 miles out of one charge makes me hopeful that later model Taycans will be able to at least get to 350 or so!

You can be hopeful!

144.4 kWh battery on sale in China!

Price: 73000 USD, 66500 Euro, 55000 GBP.

Real mileage: 900km/560mi.

Quality: Toyota/Honda, since it is the joint venture partner with decades of manufacturing plants running in China also producing Toyota and Honda made in China. Years ago we had a Honda Odyssy made in China. Then the quality was already good. We also bought a Toyota Camry a couple of years ago, also made in China. Quality is spot on. Porsche and the rest have to compete with this!

The shocking thing is: Porsche cannot compete with this in terms of:

• Range
• Charging speed
• Price
• Software
• Auto driving features
• Route planning

Route planning, I am not sure, need to see the software. The problem is, that my Taycan has no InnoDrive and no ALK (not offered in China).

VW understands and finally creates a software division in China. I hope they are not too late.

 

[Pozuelo]

Wouldn’t be seen dead in a vehicle like this, not even as a hearse !

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