Battery life 3-5 years?

[Steve R]

EDIT: The 3-5 year battery life (found when googling Taycan batter life) evidently applies to the standard 12-volt battery that is found in any car and NOT the large lithium battery bank used for propulsion, just to get this out of the way.....


Hello, my first post here and I'm a prospective buyer. I currently have a Jaguar I-pace and my wife keeps 'borrowing' it so it would seem a good excuse to buy another EV and I figure something a bit more fun and up the scale may be in order. I found 2 Taycan Turbo S's at local dealerships, one is a '20 and the other a '21, both with about 5k miles and both around $185k and both dealerships saying the wait list is very long so if I want now it would seem I have to buy 'used' but I've seen this before at the Ferrari dealerships where they have low mileage used in new condition and they get primo money for it.

2 things to ask/discuss.....

First, what's up with the stats showing a battery life of 3-5 years? I know the warranty is 8/80,000 but I've repeatedly seen the low 3-5 number and given the 2020 vehicle is already about 2-2.5 years old that gives rise for concern.....this also opening up the question of buying used

Next, the Jag is a complete delight to drive, it's plenty quick, handles almost as good as the Ferrari (it really does) and the one-pedal driving, lane assist with cruise control and other comforts makes me wonder how the Taycan will compare: I do LOVE the one-pedal driving and the Taycan is said not to have that and yet it still uses regen so I'm guessing the regen only kicks in once you touch the brake pedal? Both vehicles are classic black, one is at Santa Barbara and the other at Beverly Hills (for those who want to see the listing). I'm not afraid of losing a deal and the car slipping away, at those prices there are few takers. This will be my first P-car so I'm open to hearing anything/everything, thanks! -Steve

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[daveo4EV]

first I've heard - what is the source of this "3-5 years" - I'm unaware of any such claims.

EV batteries are expected to last as long as any major drive train component - albeit with some reduced capacities due to age

and with a 8 year/100,000 mile warranty I'm not sure what you're worried about.

 

[daveo4EV]

Taycan has "light" regen with just the accelerator (ever ever so light) - actual regen happens with the brake pedal and Taycan has "blended" braking where the car decides how much regen and how much friction braking is requires for any given situation - it's well done and not an issue.

Recommend Taycan test drive and all your questions will be answered.

 

[Loltheinternet]

Can you share where you're seeing the 3-5y battery life stats that are concerning? I have not seen anything in that vein personally.

One pedal driving isn't much of a thing on the Taycan. You can turn on "regen" mode, but it will still be fairly different what I understand other EVs are like (the Taycan is my first EV). If you search around the forums for one pedal driving you will probably see a bunch of similar questions / threads.

Glad to hear a good review on the i-Pace. Also considering one of those for my other half

 

[proficient_mathematician]

I hope these rumours about a 3-5 year battery life won’t start making the rounds, could be bad news for resale values if people start believing these cars will be useless in half a decade’s time…

 

[Fish Fingers]

Never seen the 3-5 year battery life mentioned anywhere.
And I look at lots of info on the Taycan.

Keen to see any links where the 3-5 is shown??

This is more typical of what I have seen....

 

[Steve R]

Hey guys, thanks for the quick response.. I'm away from my computer right now (using phone) but simply Google 'battery life expectancy taycan' and you will readily see what I believe is the erroneous 3 - 5 years. I'll find links later. I don't believe it to be accurate, whatever batteries are inside the Taycan are likely the same batteries as any other EV and many are expected to go as long as 15 or even 20 years in real world. I say this because I've spent time with the guys over at California GT and they've been tinkering with innovative EVs for about 10 years and they're saying the batteries are showing only minimal signs of degradation

 

[xy911jk]

but simply Google 'battery life expectancy taycan' and you will readily see what I believe is the erroneous 3 - 5 years.

This is referring to the 12v battery ... and probably cut and pasted from a generic Porsche model.

 

[kort]

Hello, my first post here and I'm a prospective buyer. I currently have a Jaguar I-pace and my wife keeps 'borrowing' it so it would seem a good excuse to buy another EV and I figure something a bit more fun and up the scale may be in order. I found 2 Taycan Turbo S's at local dealerships, one is a '20 and the other a '21, both with about 5k miles and both around $185k and both dealerships saying the wait list is very long so if I want now it would seem I have to buy 'used' but I've seen this before at the Ferrari dealerships where they have low mileage used in new condition and they get primo money for it.

2 things to ask/discuss.....

First, what's up with the stats showing a battery life of 3-5 years? I know the warranty is 8/80,000 but I've repeatedly seen the low 3-5 number and given the 2020 vehicle is already about 2-2.5 years old that gives rise for concern.....this also opening up the question of buying used

Next, the Jag is a complete delight to drive, it's plenty quick, handles almost as good as the Ferrari (it really does) and the one-pedal driving, lane assist with cruise control and other comforts makes me wonder how the Taycan will compare: I do LOVE the one-pedal driving and the Taycan is said not to have that and yet it still uses regen so I'm guessing the regen only kicks in once you touch the brake pedal? Both vehicles are classic black, one is at Santa Barbara and the other at Beverly Hills (for those who want to see the listing). I'm not afraid of losing a deal and the car slipping away, at those prices there are few takers. This will be my first P-car so I'm open to hearing anything/everything, thanks! -Steve

I own both an Ipace and a Taycan, and the Ipace drives as well as the taycan does.
regarding the battery, I don't know the source of your info but it isn't very good data. regarding regen in the taycan, it is minimal.
I won't say not to get the taycan but I will say that you're not getting all that different of a car with the taycan.

 

[taycantom]

There isn't a Taycan owner whose battery has lasted 4-5 years... since it only started delivery just under 3 years ago.

Checking out the Google search, I see it points to a dealership's page (https://www.porscheofgreenville.com/2021-porsche-taycan-battery.htm), which does indeed include such copy/paste gems as:

• "But when does your 2021 Porsche Taycan battery need to be replaced? Here are a few important symptoms...Delayed Engine Crank - when you attempt to start the vehicle, it takes longer than usual to roll over or start."
• "Is it safe to drive with the battery light on? The warning light ordinarily means that the alternator isn’t working accurately..."
• "It's again exceptionally imaginable that your 2021 Porsche Taycan serpentine belt has malfunctioned."
• "If you leave your battery unchecked, when it's not running at optimal levels your 2021 Porsche Taycan can put pressure on the alternator or the starter to improve power"
• " The most common symptoms of bad 2021 Porsche Taycan batteries are if your car is slow to start after turning the key..."

There's also a helpful pointer on the bottom of that page to:
https://www.porscheofgreenville.com/2021-porsche-taycan-oil-change.htm

Among all that text is the "3 to 5 years" statement. Not only is this about the 12V battery and not the HV battery, it's about the 12V battery in an ICE context where you need high amperage to turn the starter motor.

 

[W1NGE]

Hello, my first post here and I'm a prospective buyer. I currently have a Jaguar I-pace and my wife keeps 'borrowing' it so it would seem a good excuse to buy another EV and I figure something a bit more fun and up the scale may be in order. I found 2 Taycan Turbo S's at local dealerships, one is a '20 and the other a '21, both with about 5k miles and both around $185k and both dealerships saying the wait list is very long so if I want now it would seem I have to buy 'used' but I've seen this before at the Ferrari dealerships where they have low mileage used in new condition and they get primo money for it.

2 things to ask/discuss.....

First, what's up with the stats showing a battery life of 3-5 years? I know the warranty is 8/80,000 but I've repeatedly seen the low 3-5 number and given the 2020 vehicle is already about 2-2.5 years old that gives rise for concern.....this also opening up the question of buying used

Next, the Jag is a complete delight to drive, it's plenty quick, handles almost as good as the Ferrari (it really does) and the one-pedal driving, lane assist with cruise control and other comforts makes me wonder how the Taycan will compare: I do LOVE the one-pedal driving and the Taycan is said not to have that and yet it still uses regen so I'm guessing the regen only kicks in once you touch the brake pedal? Both vehicles are classic black, one is at Santa Barbara and the other at Beverly Hills (for those who want to see the listing). I'm not afraid of losing a deal and the car slipping away, at those prices there are few takers. This will be my first P-car so I'm open to hearing anything/everything, thanks! -Steve

Not heard of that before.

 

[taycantom]

I do LOVE the one-pedal driving and the Taycan is said not to have that and yet it still uses regen so I'm guessing the regen only kicks in once you touch the brake pedal?

On this aspect the regen is not as aggressive as on our Model X, but it's there. You have three options:

• Standard regen
  • Lift your foot off the pedal at speed and the car will slow due to regeneration. Again, this is not as strong as in our Tesla, but it's there.
• "No" regen
  • Lift your foot off the pedal at speed and it will simply coast. In my experience, it almost seems like no speed is being lost. In an ICE car is feels like you would start to slow more due to friction whereas the Taycan will just keep coasting.
• "Auto" regen
  • This one uses sensors in front to dynamically apply more regen if you are coming up on a car in front of you, and apply none if the front is clear.

 

[Taycan4CT]

I drove my buddy' s ipace and found it to be a

Hello, my first post here and I'm a prospective buyer. I currently have a Jaguar I-pace and my wife keeps 'borrowing' it so it would seem a good excuse to buy another EV and I figure something a bit more fun and up the scale may be in order. I found 2 Taycan Turbo S's at local dealerships, one is a '20 and the other a '21, both with about 5k miles and both around $185k and both dealerships saying the wait list is very long so if I want now it would seem I have to buy 'used' but I've seen this before at the Ferrari dealerships where they have low mileage used in new condition and they get primo money for it.

2 things to ask/discuss.....

First, what's up with the stats showing a battery life of 3-5 years? I know the warranty is 8/80,000 but I've repeatedly seen the low 3-5 number and given the 2020 vehicle is already about 2-2.5 years old that gives rise for concern.....this also opening up the question of buying used

Next, the Jag is a complete delight to drive, it's plenty quick, handles almost as good as the Ferrari (it really does) and the one-pedal driving, lane assist with cruise control and other comforts makes me wonder how the Taycan will compare: I do LOVE the one-pedal driving and the Taycan is said not to have that and yet it still uses regen so I'm guessing the regen only kicks in once you touch the brake pedal? Both vehicles are classic black, one is at Santa Barbara and the other at Beverly Hills (for those who want to see the listing). I'm not afraid of losing a deal and the car slipping away, at those prices there are few takers. This will be my first P-car so I'm open to hearing anything/everything, thanks! -Steve

I own a Taycan Cross Turismo 4 and test drove my friend's ipace. Nice car with great fit and finish. Enough torque and speed for my needs.

However, the driving characteristics are entirely different.

Unfortunately, his Jag had a charging system issue and the entire system had to be replaced under warranty at 6k miles.

 

[daveo4EV]

Hello, my first post here and I'm a prospective buyer. I currently have a Jaguar I-pace and my wife keeps 'borrowing' it so it would seem a good excuse to buy another EV and I figure something a bit more fun and up the scale may be in order. I found 2 Taycan Turbo S's at local dealerships, one is a '20 and the other a '21, both with about 5k miles and both around $185k and both dealerships saying the wait list is very long so if I want now it would seem I have to buy 'used' but I've seen this before at the Ferrari dealerships where they have low mileage used in new condition and they get primo money for it.

2 things to ask/discuss.....

First, what's up with the stats showing a battery life of 3-5 years? I know the warranty is 8/80,000 but I've repeatedly seen the low 3-5 number and given the 2020 vehicle is already about 2-2.5 years old that gives rise for concern.....this also opening up the question of buying used

Next, the Jag is a complete delight to drive, it's plenty quick, handles almost as good as the Ferrari (it really does) and the one-pedal driving, lane assist with cruise control and other comforts makes me wonder how the Taycan will compare: I do LOVE the one-pedal driving and the Taycan is said not to have that and yet it still uses regen so I'm guessing the regen only kicks in once you touch the brake pedal? Both vehicles are classic black, one is at Santa Barbara and the other at Beverly Hills (for those who want to see the listing). I'm not afraid of losing a deal and the car slipping away, at those prices there are few takers. This will be my first P-car so I'm open to hearing anything/everything, thanks! -Steve

after spending a day with this - I agree with others - what you are "hearing" is generic internet chatter 99% applying to 12V batteries used in ICE vehicles and EV's - the main EV traction battery (93 kWh LiON 1,500 lbs beast) is not what this internet chatter is referring to.

this internet chatter is much like my Chevy Dealer that continues to send me "discounted oil changes for my 2017 Bolt" - hint the bolt like 99% of EV's does not need oil changes…and yet the Chevy dealer is quite happy to sell me an oil change service plan for it.

the term "Not Applicable" comes to mind.

the Taycan's 12v battery may very well go bad after 3-5 years - like every other 12V battery on the planet - but the big battery is an entirely different thing and not the subject of this chatter.

 

[Steve R]

This is referring to the 12v battery ... and probably cut and pasted from a generic Porsche model.

OMG, you are correct:

When asked "What is the battery life of a Porsche Taycan"? the google answer is:

Between 3-5 years

2021 Porsche Taycan batteries normally last between 3-5 years, but this is variable depending on weather conditions, the type of battery, driving habits, and more. You can prolong the life of your Taycan battery by: Keeping your car stored indoors away from extreme swings in temperature or climate.

**END**

Yeah, they must be referring to the typical 12-volt battery that any car has. You'd think (and hope) that when a battery longevity question is asked about an EV, it would apply to the mass of batteries used for it's propulsion and not just the 'starter battery'....

Good catch/call on that, thanks!

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