where have you got that info from?? There has never been any problems with access for Tesla cars with CCS or now for other cars to access the open for all Tesla SuC. There were no technical issues at all. Only admin. Tesla wanted to have an agreement for others to use their network, which did not happen. So whatever You think of Musk, he is a businessman. And he has stated all along that he is willing to open the Tesla SuC in principle.
I also wonder if the agreement in principle will be implemented in Europe as well? There is no difference in Plug standards here, so it would purely be a commercial agreement!.
Norwegian here, with some experience traveling the European continent. We have CCS2, which in my experience works rather well. The physical differences to CCS1 may be what makes it work better here than in US. But I think, as has been said by some of you Americans, that the operating companies' competence, attention and procedures are more important reasons why we are better off.
Porsche will switch once the rest of the US EV's do and EA gives in - remember EA was funded by VW, so they have a vested interest. If Porsche does move, the question is whether they will provide an adapter for older cars that is well integrated with Porsche, or just drop those older cars to use 3rd party adapter which will be available by then.
And lose AC charging on that side you mean? Or is the idea that the NACS might actually fit in the place of only the DC portion of the CCS socket?
It is not just a socket. AC/DC pins now need to be multiplexed vs. being separate on the CCS connector. Way more retrofitting than just a connector to the same wires and new firmware for communications.
it could be either way, but if it replaces the AC only side they probably need a separate switch installed that prevents DC charging from both plugs at the same time, or maybe just like they do now with the charging disabled if both flaps are open.
I feel like there's about a 1% chance Porsche tries to retrofit NACS onto already delivered cars when you could probably buy 5 adapters for the same price as whatever a retrofit would cost, and not have to risk mechanics mucking about under the hood. Heck, if you replaced the CCS side with NACS (which seems more likely, since Porsche already chose not to put DCFC on both sides), you'd even still need an adapter for CCS charging anyways.
it's much more than that - since NACS can route AC/DC power over the same two wire it's a farily significant change to the harnesses from the charging ports to the onboard chargers - no retrofit will be made available - older cars will be adapter only - newer cars would be NACS at some future point - or they could simply be adapter indefinately.
less than zero chance and at $150/hour mechanic's labor more than 5 adapter - it's $5000 cost to swap the 11 kW on board charger for the 19.2 kW onboard charger retrofit - and that doesn't include swapping the "charging ports" or wiring differences that NACS requires for the onboard stuff…let's say at least $7500 _IF_ they had the parts/redesign ready - probably closer to $10-$12k to retrofit an existing Taycan - not going to happen.
