break in, run in, gentle early miles/Kms?

[daveo4EV]

I was rear-ended by Forerunner while turning into a shopping center. Nothing to do with break-in. Got to enjoy my Taycan for over 26k miles in 8 months before it was totaled by an idiot in a Toyota.

sorry for your demaage - and yeah it clearly a rear end and not due to any "sending it"...just had to poke a bit of fun

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[Archimedes]

Reserve launch mode when at the light next to other EV's, so you don't feel embarrassed that a Mustang Mach-E or Model Y outruns your Taycan.

What? Maybe the Performance GT vs Taycan RWD, but like for like model, the Taycan model will drop them both like a bad habit.

 

[dugbug]

Full send from the get go. It’s one of the perks of EV ownership. No warm ups. No delayed gratification. Beat on it from Day 1.

this ev has a transmission though.

 

[daveo4EV]

What? Maybe the Performance GT vs Taycan RWD, but like for like model, the Taycan model will drop them both like a bad habit.

not unless they are in launch control - I've tested my Turbo vs. AWD Model Y & 3 - with out launch control this is simply not true.

I have daily access to both - and off the line at a stop light with out Launch control the standard model 3/Y are quicker until about 70 mph - after that the taycan eats them...

 

[whitex]

What? Maybe the Performance GT vs Taycan RWD, but like for like model, the Taycan model will drop them both like a bad habit.

OK, let's look at manufacturer published numbers:
0-60 times:

• Mustang GT Performance 3.5s
• Model Y Performance 3.5s
• Model 3 Performance 3.1s

Now, comparing that against my Turbo CT - 3.1s with Launch Control

So, without launch control, even a Turbo (or Turbo S since they only differ in launch control) will lag. Tried an off the light race against a Mach-E with my Turbo CT once - he jumped off the line quicker, I caught up with him by ~40mph but not sure if he was already letting off the accelerator (we both hit ~55). I was in Sport so no shift down delay. Not sure which trim mach-E it was and whether they have something like launch control. I had 4 people in the car, he had 2, still, I somehow expected more from the Taycan (hence didn't bother with SportPlus or LC). Model S never had the problem, has always had access to same power with or without launch control - LC just added different stance and motor pre-energizing, so somewhat faster ramp to 100%. Not sure what Porsche was thinking, probably maybe some legacy marketing crap like the sport chrono single hand clock, or maybe they really do need to limit the number of launches in the life of a Taycan in order to not lose their shirt on the battery warranty - requiring the car to be stopped and special activation will definitely make LC not used that often.

 

[whitex]

not unless they are in launch control - I've tested my Turbo vs. AWD Model Y & 3 - with out launch control this is simply not true.

I have daily access to both - and off the line at a stop light with out Launch control the standard model 3/Y are quicker until about 70 mph - after that the taycan eats them...

Don't 3/Y have same full power available (other than battery pre-heat) with or without launch control?

 

[daveo4EV]

Don't 3/Y have same full power available (other than battery pre-heat) with or without launch control?

yep - not even performnce version's - there is also a $2,000 acceleration software boost - I have it on a 2022 Model Y (my son's)

unprepared in Range/Normal mode - the Taycan is not quicker than "normal" Model 3/Y/S/X…

now if you're in sports plus it's way way quicker
and launch control - no question it's faster unless you have a $60,000 Model 3 Performance or Model S

but unprepared - both cars - just nailing the throttle - the 3/Y/S/X are much quicker until about 70 mph

 

[whitex]

yep - not even performnce version's - there is also a $2,000 acceleration software boost - I have it on a 2022 Model Y (my son's)

unprepared in Range/Normal mode - the Taycan is not quicker than "normal" Model 3/Y/S/X…

now if you're in sports plus it's way way quicker
and launch control - no question it's faster unless you have a $60,000 Model 3 Performance or Model S

but unprepared - both cars - just nailing the throttle - the 3/Y/S/X are much quicker until about 70 mph

Does Sport Plus vs. Individual Drive Mode setup with same on-screen parameters as Sport Plus make any difference?

 

[daveo4EV]

Does Sport Plus vs. Individual Drive Mode setup with same on-screen parameters as Sport Plus make any difference?

nothing significant or repeatable…I've done a lot of side by side with the two cars - and unprepared just bang the throttle no preparation the Model 3/Y is super quick vs. my Taycan Turbo which is disappointing as an EV…

however if in launch control - game over - but that is not "unprepared"

Model 3/Y like 40-80 mph will eat a 911 TurboS by quite a margin - after 80 the TurboS will win hands down...

but around town and up to about 80 mph - there is really honestly nothing "quicker" for just slamming the gas pedal than a Tesla.

Note the Model Y's C&D test results vs. a 2023 911 TurboS - 30-50 mph & 50-70 mph - it's quicker than a 911 TurboS at darting around on a freeway…up until "legal" speeds - then of course nothing beats the Turbo - but for road legal sprints unprepared - yeah Taycan's not a quick as Porsche would like you to believe.

 

[whitex]

sorry for your demaage - and yeah it clearly a rear end and not due to any "sending it"...just had to poke a bit of fun

Could be due to overly gentle acceleration with an eager driver behind expecting Taycan acceleration. ?

 

[daveo4EV]

nothing significant or repeatable…I've done a lot of side by side with the two cars - and unprepared just bang the throttle no preparation the Model 3/Y is super quick vs. my Taycan Turbo which is disappointing as an EV…

however if in launch control - game over - but that is not "unprepared"

Model 3/Y like 40-80 mph will eat a 911 TurboS by quite a margin - after 80 the TurboS will win hands down...

but around town and up to about 80 mph - there is really honestly nothing "quicker" for just slamming the gas pedal than a Tesla.

Note the Model Y's C&D test results vs. a 2023 911 TurboS - 30-50 mph & 50-70 mph - it's quicker than a 911 TurboS at darting around on a freeway…up until "legal" speeds - then of course nothing beats the Turbo - but for road legal sprints unprepared - yeah Taycan's not a quick as Porsche would like you to believe.

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/0-60-times-without-launch-control.4343/#post-59759

Taycan's "rolling" numbers aren't that great either vs. a 3/Y…for being 3x more expensive.

same 30-50 mph 1.7 sec
slower 50-70 mph 2.1 vs the Model Y's (2.0)

 

[Archimedes]

not unless they are in launch control - I've tested my Turbo vs. AWD Model Y & 3 - with out launch control this is simply not true.

I have daily access to both - and off the line at a stop light with out Launch control the standard model 3/Y are quicker until about 70 mph - after that the taycan eats them...

Im assuming launch control. I may have misinterpreted his post as saying don’t race those EVs from a light, period.

My buddies Model Y performance doesn’t feel close to my 4S (with LC), much less a Turbo S which is what we should be comparing if we’re talking the top car in each line.

Also, C&D times 0-60:

Taycan Turbo S 2.4-2.6
Taycan Turbo 3.0-3.1
Taycan 4S 3.4
Mach E Performance 3.7
Model Y Performance 3.6 (Others show 3.5)

 

[whitex]

Im assuming launch control. I may have misinterpreted his post as saying don’t race those EVs from a light, period.

My buddies Model Y performance doesn’t feel close to my 4S (with LC), much less a Turbo S which is what we should be comparing if we’re talking the top car in each line.

Also, C&D times 0-60:

Taycan Turbo S 2.4-2.6
Taycan Turbo 3.0-3.1
Taycan 4S 3.4
Mach E Performance 3.7
Model Y Performance 3.6 (Others show 3.5)

I was simply responding to the OP's question, saying if you want to take it easy on the car, only use LC when racing other EV's , as you will need it. Some might incorrectly assume Porsche with its reputation for fast cars would not need LC to out-accelerate a factory mass production car that costs a quarter of the Taycan price (it as if a top Panamera is beat at the lights by a top Camry). I made that mistaken assumption - switching out of a Model S, pedal to the floor at the lights beat pretty much any non-Tesla out there with ease, and mine wasn't even Plaid. Taycan Turbo was supposed to have the same according to advertised numbers. I was honestly surprised how much of Porsche's advertised performance is locked behind Launch Control.

 

[j.w.s]

I read on another thread some talk about breaking in the car from new. Avoiding launch, etc. My GTS ST arrives in 4 weeks, need some advice as my son will be ngging me to launch at every opportunity. Does the user manual mention this?

Bed in those brakes properly. Mine felt quite disappointing for quite a few miles:

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...-at-400-miles-for-me-and-its-wonderful.14519/

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

I was honestly surprised how much of Porsche's advertised performance is locked behind Launch Control.

Hmm, maybe I should try this "launch control" thing. My research on it has been basically this:

(sorry, just poking fun, not necessarilyreally emitting judgments)

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