Does anyone know how many Taycan's were delivered in 2019, 2020, 2021 & 2022?

[Gino]

I hoping to find out how big this LG battery issue really is. I'm estimating that Porsche has sold at least 100,000 Taycan's from 2019 through 2022 and there could be 5% to 10% max (hopefully) of these vehicles which will require partial or full battery replacement within the 8 year warranty period. For the people which have already received full battery replacements in the last year which resolved the charging issue or the sealant flaw which could allow moisture to get inside battery cells leading to arcing and runaway fires.
Luckily my Taycan is one of three cars I don't drive more than 5K miles/year but I would appreciate being able to remove the cloud over the LG batteries risk of failure & fire.

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[Hirschaj]

Luckily my Taycan is one of three cars I don't drive more than 5K miles/year

If you want your warranty to be honored you need to drive it more. I think the lower cutoff is 6K miles per year.

 

[Gino]

If you want your warranty to be honored you need to drive it more. I think the lower cutoff is 6K miles per year.

I was never told about a minimum number of miles for the warranty to be valid. Does this mean the minimum miles you must drive over the 8 year warranty is 48K miles? My vehicle currently has 31K miles after 28 months. From this point forward I'm not likely to drive more than 4K-5K miles per year so if the first 2 years I have 30K and the last 6 years I have 4K miles/yr at an additional 24K miles then I should be above 48K miles which would be an average of 6K miles/yr.
Does this sound ok? Can you direct me toward the minimum mileage requirements for the 8 year 100K mile warranty from Porsche? I can't find anywhere it says that. Seems a bit odd to have a minimum as long as the main battery is always maintained at 50% SOC on a regular basis and not run the battery until it's close to dead and leave it that way for extended periods which I could see would cause damage to any battery.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Tooney]

Read your warranty manual in glove compartment.

 

[Gino]

Will do

 

[Gino]

Just got a response from my Porsche service advisor related to my question if there are minimum mileage requirements under the 8 year 100K mile warranty:

"Theres no minimum mileage requirements for the Taycan, that only applies to the regular 12V AGM batteries that a regular car uses. Taycans do not apply to that rule."

Thank you

Simon Chen
Service Advisor
Porsche Newport Beach
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[Hirschaj]

This is a screenshot taken from the US warranty book. That 3rd bullet point seems pretty clear.

 

[800v]

This is a screenshot taken from the US warranty book. That 3rd bullet point seems pretty clear.

Wow, I thought this was a joke!

 

[Hirschaj]

Wow, I thought this was a joke!

Not joking at all unfortunately. I’d rather not give Porsche any excuses to deny a warranty claim. Personally, I far surpass the 6K per year threshold so I don’t need to worry about it but people should know about this potential issue.

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

This is a screenshot taken from the US warranty book. That 3rd bullet point seems pretty clear.

I’ve seen on the other thread, but unfortunately lost it; thanks for posting it again.

There is *nothing* in there which says the car *must* be driven a minimum daily average distance. Case dismissed.

 

[Hirschaj]

I’ve seen on the other thread, but unfortunately lost it; thanks for posting it again.

There is *nothing* in there which says the car *must* be driven a minimum daily average distance. Case dismissed.

I wish it were so cut and dry but here is another part of the warranty that mentions “normal vehicle use”.

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

I wish it were so cut and dry but here is another part of the warranty that mentions “normal vehicle use”.

I’m mad about this (that they even tried to sneak in “lack of normal use”) but it still isn’t a hard limit; “reasonable” != “minimum required”. I would love to see them try.

(Some days I really fucking hate them.)

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

I wish it were so cut and dry but here is another part of the warranty that mentions “normal vehicle use”.

I guess it is reasonable to expect a huge battery to “go bad” if simply stored/unused for an extended period of time; electricity doesn’t like storage. Porsche is probably trying to be conservative, but it’s just .. poor taste to publish a long list of disclaimers, followed by bragging about their cars requiring higher performance tires than the rest. Oh well, we’ll see what they do at Laguna Seca this weekend ?.

 

[Gino]

This is a screenshot taken from the US warranty book. That 3rd bullet point seems pretty clear.

It appears my service advisor says these are only recommendations and not conditions of warranty but it does say to maintain your receipts so it gives Porsche an out if they deem you did not use the vehicle as they suggested.
The next paragraph does say if you do not plan to drive your Taycan regularly or plan to not drive it for several weeks it is recommended to keep it plugged into the charger but the Porsche Service Bulletin from Feb 2022 states you shouldn't leave the 120v charger plugged in for more than 12 hours and should only be used in an emergency. This wasn't stated when I bought the vehicle. I was told they assume everyone can put 220v service in their garage which unfortunately I am not allowed to in my community because it would require digging a trench in the driveway between the homes & the detached garages.
It appears Porsche is winging it as they go since I showed my dealer this section and he said they are recommendations, not a condition of warranty. He did say however that the vehicle should not be stored below 20% on a regular basis since this will damage the battery. f it is below 50% but above 20% then the 12v battery will discharge over time because the main battery only charges the 12V battery when the main battery is at or above 50%.
This is where they assume everyone can plug into 220v (which I can't) so I always keep the charge level comfortably above 50% whenever it's going to be parked more than 24 hours.
He said the biggest risk to the main battery is either leaving it discharged below 20% or charging it to 100% too often.
Evidently they changed the software in 2022 to allow the main battery to charge the 12v lithium battery as long as the main battery is >50% SOC but I'm just taking their word for it but it is stated in a Porsche Service bulletin.
I appreciate all the feedback because it shows how unclear the messages are coming from Porsche. They all seem to be saying now to keep the vehicle 20% & 80% charged but that's a pretty narrow window which is only about 140 miles on my base Taycan. That's not a lot but we primarily use it around town.
If any Porsche has to be driven every day then there are many people I know that aren't driving their vehicles every week let alone every day. With my consulting work I spend 150 nights a year in hotels (everywhere except in California where I live) 1000s of miles from home or in other countries. I'm always in a rental car for 150+ days a year for business and my wife and I are away on vacation another 60+ nights a year so our vehicles don't get used much.
I never have any issues with my charge level after being out of town for 3 or 4 weeks as long as a left it with over 50% SOC with a buffer of 1-2% additional per week we're away.
I am going to prod my service advisor and salesman to try to get a clearer answer out of them but I will never be an ideal user driving 15 miles a day. When I do drive I want to drive something special. My Taycan is special. I just hope the main battery outlasts me..

 

[Gino]

I’m mad about this (that they even tried to sneak in “lack of normal use”) but it still isn’t a hard limit; “reasonable” != “minimum required”. I would love to see them try.

(Some days I really fucking hate them.)

Thanks so much! This is infuriating to see. So in Porsche's eyes you must drive your Taycan at least 48K miles and ideally more than 100K miles in 8 years but ideally much sooner so they are off the hook for the 8 year battery warranty asap and 10 years for the extended warranty.
Something doesn't smell right here. I hope we're not getting played.
I will be very interested to see if Porsche declines a warranty repair because the vehicle wasn't driven enough, was charged too often, too high SOC or discharged too low SOC.
It is Porsche's problem if their charger has the ability to overcharge and damage their batteries regardless if it's at 120V or 220V. Their chargers should be smart enough to not damage their batteries. I could easily see a class action suit coming if Porsche pulls the trigger to deny a warranty claim for the items stated above...

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