New-used ( 2025 ) or old-used ( '20)? i have the means for both but.. i have some worries

[lory995]

Hi everybody, i'm new to the forum and i expect to pull the trigger this week or the next on my first porsche ever, obviously a Taycan.
Problem is i don't know which one.
I've got an incredibly specced 4s at ~ 61.000 euro on a not-porsche dealer ( 300km away from my home ), with 60.000 km ( ~ 37k miles ), which i like very much.
The alternative though it's a used but new ( 2000 km ) 2025 rwd that i test drove and found fast enough for my taste. This is exactly as i would spec mine if it where new, if not better, and that's a 96.000 euro -142.000 euro spec value 6 months ago when it was bought - 200 km away-from-home Porsche Certified Pre-owned. Fortunately there is a porsche dealer in my town so this would be easier since, as i understand it, the CPO warranties are shared between any dealership.

Now to the questions.
As per title, i can buy whichever of the two, but i want squeeze the most value out of my money:

1. Repair costs, if i buy the old 4s and in 6 months one of my suspensions goes i easily have to spend something like 5/10k making it a bad deal, at that point it would have made better sense to buy the newest one and enjoying the better range, better software and more resale value wouldn'it?
2. I know there are no magic-sphere-owners here, but considering just resale value what would you say it's the best investment valuein your opinion?
   Right now i would save 36k, but i fear that when the battery warranty expires the value of a car with 100/110.000 kms and 8 years would plummet more than it already has leading to the same conclusion as per point 1. ( will the porsche dealer buy the car eventually even after 8 years? )
3. Porsche extended warranty: if i buy it does it cover both the point 1 case and the battery warranty? ( except natural range reduction of course )
   If i'd go with the 4s i would buy the warranty as soon as i came back home since i would have no way of driving 300km to use the warranty of the non-porsche dealer..

Thanks to everyone that would be so kind as to anwser my questions, hope to drive my taycan asap!!

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[Murph7355]

No Taycan is an investment.

The older car will depreciate less in absolute terms if that's a key factor.

Extended warranty should cover (1) BUT a non-Porsche dealer cannot give you a Porsche extended warranty. You'd have to sort this yourself after sale. A risk.

The newer RWD will likely be as fast as the older 4S. It will have more range. But not 4WD of course.

Have a good look round. It sounds like a good deal on the new car, but they aren't giving them away. Values will only go one way. If you wait a wee bit, could you get a 2025 4S for near that marker??

If urgency is key, and the colour and spec is perfect for you, I'd likely go with the newer car in this instance.

 

[Murph7355]

PS HV battery is not covered by extended warranty. All cars have 8yrs/100k miles and that is currently it.

I don't think I'd be comfortable with a third party warranty.

 

[lory995]

No Taycan is an investment.

The older car will depreciate less in absolute terms if that's a key factor.

Extended warranty should cover (1) BUT a non-Porsche dealer cannot give you a Porsche extended warranty. You'd have to sort this yourself after sale. A risk.

The newer RWD will likely be as fast as the older 4S. It will have more range. But not 4WD of course.

Have a good look round. It sounds like a good deal on the new car, but they aren't giving them away. Values will only go one way. If you wait a wee bit, could you get a 2025 4S for near that marker??

If urgency is key, and the colour and spec is perfect for you, I'd likely go with the newer car in this instance.

I understand very well that almost no car is an investment, a taycan even less so, my question though was in value terms, best value for money so to speak.
I tested both the old 4s and the new rwd and the new one has not as much "pull" as the old 4s but muuch better then the old rwd, and i'd say is more than enough for most people that doesn't usually drive 300hp+ sportscar. For those the 4s is needed.

A couple weeks ago when i started to look seriously into taycan it wasn't urgent, but yesterday my car decided to half-die and probably need to open the engine to fix it. On a 12 y.o. car. No way - i'm getting the taycan asap.

But i want to understand your first point when you say this

You'd have to sort this yourself after sale. A risk.

I probably didn't explain myself well enough ( english is not my first language) but i planned to run in the porsche center near my house as soon as i drove my taycan back home from the non-porsche dealer. But you make it sound like.. porsche can refuse to sell me the warranty? Is that the risk?

 

[lory995]

PS HV battery is not covered by extended warranty. All cars have 8yrs/100k miles and that is currently it.

I don't think I'd be comfortable with a third party warranty.

Wait, you mean that if a cell brakes on its own it wouldn't be covered if i'm at 110k miles?
Would it still cover the arb6/7 recall?

 

[chun]

Wait, you mean that if a cell brakes on its own it wouldn't be covered if i'm at 110k miles?
Would it still cover the arb6/7 recall?

In theory, they would still have to replace the module/cell that was defect; post warranty; as it would still be under battery recall actions unless they replace the whole battery with a j1.2 battery.

Now, that’s theory. We didn’t make it so far yet, to see what porsche would actually do and if they would try to avoid legal requirements based on terminology/technialcities etc. It depends how much trust you have in the brand to do right by you

In terms of performance, active ride is the option that makes the biggest difference to how a 2025 feels compared to a 2020. So that’s the only thing that would make me go for a 2025 instead of a 2020

 

[glengarrygr]

When I had the same decision in May I went with a lease on a 2025 base.

 

[Shug]

I recently had a 2025 4S as a loan car and hated the bong, bong every time I hit the speed limit - apparently this now European law.

My 2021 4S makes no noises when I hit the speed limit and is much more pleasant to drive.

 

[chun]

I recently had a 2025 4S as a loan car and hated the bong, bong every time I hit the speed limit - apparently this now European law.

My 2021 4S makes no noises when I hit the speed limit and is much more pleasant to drive.

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[lory995]

Well thanks you all for the answers, unfortunately the only other Taycan 4S decently specced and sold by a porsche dealer, official CPO is a 140.000 km one. They offer 2 years of warranty of course, but what would you say? is it too much?

Maybe i should open another thread ---> i did : https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/taycan-cpo-with-140-000-km-86-000-miles.27091/

 

[Murph7355]

....
But i want to understand your first point when you say this

I probably didn't explain myself well enough ( english is not my first language) but i planned to run in the porsche center near my house as soon as i drove my taycan back home from the non-porsche dealer. But you make it sound like.. porsche can refuse to sell me the warranty? Is that the risk?

Depends where you live.

In the UK you'd need to put it through a 111 point check (at cost - £250-300), and have anything found repaired... In some places you might also have to wait a period before you can put warranty on the car

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