Sponsored

5 serious issues in 13 months.. normal?

69Mach390

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2025
Threads
9
Messages
849
Reaction score
578
Location
Florida
Vehicles
24 Taycan 4S
Country flag
Last year when my Taycan was due in at the dealers yet again, it actually led to me selling it as I couldn't get an appointment or a loan car for 3 months.
I decided to go and see them about it as I really wasnt happy.
The service manager said they always have way more Taycans in than all the other models combined. He showed me round and there were Taycans everywhere waiting to be looked at.

Recalls and faults, combined with a shortage of trained technicians, is why the wait was approaching 3 months.

He said if it had been any other model they could get it in next week.

That car spent more time at the dealers than all my other cars combined in over 40 years.
I never had a recall on any other car, and I think that had 5 in under 3 years.
Never had a recall?

What did you drive?

Maybe they’re more plentiful in the US, but I can’t remember owning a car that didn’t have at least one recall at some point.

And none of of the recalls took more than a day or two to get fixed.

Recalls here happen frequently. Whenever there is a potential major safety concern, manufacturers have to do recalls. Then they only schedule you to come in when the parts are available.
Sponsored

 
OP
OP
bastiaan

bastiaan

Active Member
Joined
Sep 30, 2024
Threads
7
Messages
44
Reaction score
23
Location
Netherlands
Vehicles
2023 GTS Sport Turismo
Country flag
Never had a recall?

What did you drive?

Maybe they’re more plentiful in the US, but I can’t remember owning a car that didn’t have at least one recall at some point.

And none of of the recalls took more than a day or two to get fixed.

Recalls here happen frequently. Whenever there is a potential major safety concern, manufacturers have to do recalls. Then they only schedule you to come in when the parts are available.
I also never had a recall or a breakdown or anything in 15 years of owning cars… until I got my Taycan. Granted, they were Toyotas and then Lexusses.
 
  • Like
Reactions: B61

B61

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bine
Joined
May 31, 2021
Threads
10
Messages
2,722
Reaction score
1,724
Location
SI
Vehicles
4S (8/2025), CT4 (9/2021-8/2025, 65k km)
Country flag
This is certainly not common for a 2023 model but the issues you are having are all well known for J1.1 generation in general but handled under warranty with long shop times and a lot of frustration. The car generates a lot of data that can be gathered and analyzed on your own for faults, but for the dealer not being able to give you an answer for the electrical fault is unacceptable.

My advice if you want to get ahead of the issues especially with HV battery then get yourself an OBD reader with CarScannner app and look at the data yourself. I can help you with step by step if you decide to do so.
Make sure that your OBD support J1.2… mine doesn’t show SoH correctly (it shows 68%) 🤷‍♂️

otherwise: satisfied customers are not coming to forums…where we are trying to find out what’s wrong with our cars.
I haven’t had any problems for more than three years (ok, recalls for heater and some brake “pipes “….) while the last two-three months of 4th year were terrible 🤦🏻‍♂️
And - it was my 1st time that i called towing service…in +40 years of my driving “career” 😤🤬
 
Last edited:

Fish Fingers

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 20, 2021
Threads
50
Messages
2,531
Reaction score
3,282
Location
UK
Vehicles
Sold
Country flag
Never had a recall?

What did you drive?

Maybe they’re more plentiful in the US, but I can’t remember owning a car that didn’t have at least one recall at some point.

And none of of the recalls took more than a day or two to get fixed.

Recalls here happen frequently. Whenever there is a potential major safety concern, manufacturers have to do recalls. Then they only schedule you to come in when the parts are available.
I've owned dozens of cars over the last 40+ years.
Quick brain dump...... Golf R, GTI's, V6 4motion, VR6, R32s, Audi S3s, S4, A4, BMW M2, Fiat Coupe 20v turbo, Celica ST, Scirocco Storm, VW Corrado, Honda CRX's.....etc etc.

Even a 5hitty Ford XR2!

Never had a single recall on any of them till the Taycan.
Moved to a BMW i4 M50 over a year ago and no recalls on that (to date).
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: B61

SteveBruin

Well-Known Member
First Name
Steve
Joined
Jul 27, 2024
Threads
8
Messages
58
Reaction score
15
Location
California
Vehicles
Taycan 4S J1.1 (performance, premium, sports design package), E46 M3 vert 6mt
Country flag
Sorry to hear.
I have a 2020 4s. Never had any issues other than the recalls.
 


bob66hall

Active Member
First Name
Bob H
Joined
Jan 2, 2023
Threads
0
Messages
30
Reaction score
27
Location
Reno/Tahoe, Nevada
Vehicles
Taycan 4S 2021; 911S Cab 2012; Cayenne Turbo 2014; BMW iX 2023
Country flag
Some have said these forums are predominately populated with "negative" users. Me? I've found this forum quite useful, with appreciation. I'd give some merit to the "overly negative" observation, too. So just to balance things out a bit for you....

Yes, my MY2021 Taycan 4S (purchased new in April 2022) has had numerous recalls. As well, my local dealer was slow to climb the learning curve on Porsches, and
EV's in general. Aggravating? Heck yes. But knowing I was a Taycan "early adopter," I found it all tolerable. On the brighter side, I've had neither mechanical issues, nor any "fatal flaw" electrical or software issues. Never towed. Never left me stranded.

Like another poster, I added a BMW iX to my garage. It has been flawless, with a superior user experience. It's a fabulous SUV. But for a drive over my nearby mountain pass? I take the 4S every time :) .
 

69Mach390

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2025
Threads
9
Messages
849
Reaction score
578
Location
Florida
Vehicles
24 Taycan 4S
Country flag
I also never had a recall or a breakdown or anything in 15 years of owning cars… until I got my Taycan. Granted, they were Toyotas and then Lexusses.
That’s just good luck mixed with likely different rules for Toyota and recalls in your country.
Here is a list of recent Toyota recalls in the US:
https://www.kbb.com/toyota/recall/
 

69Mach390

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2025
Threads
9
Messages
849
Reaction score
578
Location
Florida
Vehicles
24 Taycan 4S
Country flag
I've owned dozens of cars over the last 40+ years.
Quick brain dump...... Golf R, GTI's, V6 4motion, VR6, R32s, Audi S3s, S4, A4, BMW M2, Fiat Coupe 20v turbo, Celica ST, Scirocco Storm, VW Corrado, Honda CRX's.....etc etc.

Even a 5hitty Ford XR2!

Never had a single recall on any of them till the Taycan.
Moved to a BMW i4 M50 over a year ago and no recalls on that (to date).
I4 recalls in the US-


Key Recalls Affecting the i4 M50:
  • Chassis Beam (2024 i4 M50): A 2024 recall (Aug 2024) for certain i4 M50s (and other i4s) manufactured March-April 2024 due to a potential crack in the rear wheel arch's longitudinal beam, which could compromise structural integrity in a crash, increasing injury/fire risk.
  • Battery Module (2022-2023 i4 M50): An older recall (Aug 2022) for potential battery damage, advising owners not to charge or drive the vehicle, parking it away from structures due to fire risk.
  • Software Glitch (2022-2024 i4 M50): A major June 2025 recall for many BMW EVs, including i4s, addressing a software fault that could unexpectedly shut down the drive motor, though steering/braking remain.
Can’t Google everything on that list, but I’m shocked with all those VW Golfs you never had a recall. Must be a USA thing again. They seem to have multiple every year. Just look at the list of recent years:

Recall list-
  • 2022-2024 Golf R/GTI: Rearview camera delays.
  • 2019 Golf: Steering column, wheels, suspension.
  • 2018 Golf: Suspension (rear coil springs), anti-theft/ignition module, brake calipers.
  • 2017 Golf: Airbags, steering, rear suspension, seatbelt pre-tensioners.
  • 2016 Golf: Brakes, fuel injection, engine, steering, rear suspension.
  • 2015 Golf: Airbags, fuel pump/system, key removal, brake vacuum pump, rear suspension.
 


Bognar67

Well-Known Member
First Name
Janos
Joined
Jul 9, 2021
Threads
7
Messages
821
Reaction score
851
Location
Hungary
Vehicles
Taycan GTS 2022, i4 40 MS 2024, GT3 992.2 2025.
Country flag
2022 Taycan GTS 60k km market value is EUR75k, and so so many on sale.
2022 911S 60k km market value is EUR125k and only few advertised.
Prices new were similar.
Money talks, and it is mostly reliability.
I love my Taycan, had relatively low number of issues, but not ready to burn in this money again. On tax, fuel, service, parking max. 20% returns of the gap of the reselling prices.
 
Last edited:

69Mach390

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2025
Threads
9
Messages
849
Reaction score
578
Location
Florida
Vehicles
24 Taycan 4S
Country flag
2022 Taycan GTS 60k km market value is EUR75k, and so so many on sale.
2022 911S 60k km market value is EUR125k and only few advertised.
Prices new were similar.
Money talks, and it is mostly reliability.
I love my Taycan, had relatively low number of issues, but not ready to burn in this money again. On tax, fuel, service, parking max. 20% returns of the gap of the reselling prices.
It’s more market based than reliability based.

Even the most reliable EVs have terrible resale right now.

For two years after I bought my Mach E- I could have sold it used for MORE than I paid for it (market based).

Then Tesla dropped the price of their cars by $15k-$40k per model and my car’s value dropped in half (market based).

That was the beginning of the death spiral for the used EV market. The same year many more models came to market and manufacturers overestimated demand and built too many.

Since then manufacturers have been giving huge discounts further tanking the used market. This year it somewhat stabilized. But at low prices.
 
  • Like
Reactions: B61

Bognar67

Well-Known Member
First Name
Janos
Joined
Jul 9, 2021
Threads
7
Messages
821
Reaction score
851
Location
Hungary
Vehicles
Taycan GTS 2022, i4 40 MS 2024, GT3 992.2 2025.
Country flag
Whatever is the reason the most expensive way of auto mobilization is an EV due to depreciation. The promise/hope was opposite.
More people recognize less buy.
 

69Mach390

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2025
Threads
9
Messages
849
Reaction score
578
Location
Florida
Vehicles
24 Taycan 4S
Country flag
Whatever is the reason the most expensive way of auto mobilization is an EV due to depreciation. The promise/hope was opposite.
More people recognize less buy.
Like everything, it goes in cycles.

And this was a VERY unusual 5 years for car prices.

Things will stabilize as time passes. Manufacturers just guessed very wrong about the car market and had to adjust which resulted in prices way too high then actually too low as a result.

Wild swings are bad for any market, but always settle out.

I use the Mach E GT as an example again:

70k MSRP in 2021- and all selling for full price

MSRP goes up in 2022- and dealers even selling ABOVE MSRP.

2023- prices crash (following Tesla price drops), huge discounts. Same car selling in the $50k range

2024- current. MSRP drop, but prices fairly stable in the mid-high $50k range.

If just adjusted for inflation, the Mach E should be $86k right now. Since that didn’t happen, the used values tanked.

Now that people consistently buy them in the $50k range, resale as a % isn’t that bad. The used value of my car actually went UP in the last year. Same seems to have happened with the Taycan.
 

garegin

Well-Known Member
First Name
Garegin
Joined
Nov 19, 2024
Threads
12
Messages
71
Reaction score
14
Location
San Francisco Bay Area
Vehicles
2024 Taycan Turbo S
Country flag
sorry you’re having these many issues. I’ve had my car for a year and have not had any major problems. the problems I have are so minor that I’m too lazy to take go to the dealer (driver window gets stuck at the bottom sometimes but usually self resolves after a few attempts, etc). I wouldn’t say what you have is normal.
 

MarcelM

New Member
First Name
Marcel
Joined
Jan 7, 2026
Threads
0
Messages
1
Reaction score
2
Location
Netherlands
Vehicles
Taycan GTS Sport Tourismo
Country flag
hi Bastiaan,

PC Rotterdam imports Taycans themself :) I bought a 22 GTS ST from them on the 1st of november.
It broke down (yellow ring) on the 22nd of December and since I live near PC Gelderland I let it ship there.
31st december they got data out of the car, send it to Porsche in Germany who diagnosed 1 faulty cell in the HV battery. (Jan 6th)
They are planning to start fixing it the 9th of Feb. So when it returns it's been in the shop longer than on my driveway.

When I had a Tesla, everybody complained about service / parts availability. had 2 issues in 4 years. One solved on the driveway, the other one (krakende draagarmen) in the shop which cost me 4 hours waiting.

For now I got a Macan EV loaner, definately not my preferred car, however my girl loves the Macan (she never drove the Taycan).
edit: just got an e-mail, they want the macan back, i'll get an Audi A3..

Yes, things break down, but waiting 2 weeks before diagnoses start(even with christmas en NY) 6 weeks before they start repairing is in my opinion not even close to be called 'service'. They should have got the data out the day it got into the shop, based on the data allocate a preliminary repair slot and after getting the diagnoses back from Porsche Germany confirm the allocated slot.
this would bring the total repair time back to 50% or less.
 
Last edited:

Fish Fingers

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 20, 2021
Threads
50
Messages
2,531
Reaction score
3,282
Location
UK
Vehicles
Sold
Country flag
It’s more market based than reliability based.

Even the most reliable EVs have terrible resale right now.

For two years after I bought my Mach E- I could have sold it used for MORE than I paid for it (market based).

Then Tesla dropped the price of their cars by $15k-$40k per model and my car’s value dropped in half (market based).

That was the beginning of the death spiral for the used EV market. The same year many more models came to market and manufacturers overestimated demand and built too many.

Since then manufacturers have been giving huge discounts further tanking the used market. This year it somewhat stabilized. But at low prices.
Just read a few articles re UK new car sales figures for 2025.
Basically saying that EV prices will have to go up, as they are currently costing manufacturers £11k per car sold.
Completely unsustainable.
If new prices increase, I would imagine used will start to follow.
Sponsored

 
 








Top