Brabus SportXtra Suspension Lowering Module for Taycan?

[prj]

Interestingly, all the installation is done in the boot of the car w/ the wiring to the suspension control stuff back there - nothing gets installed at each wheel, like the CETE unit does.

That's exactly where it should be done, at the control module. But for this price they need to provide a plug and play harness that goes in between the suspension controller and the loom.

Hacking up the harness on a car with warranty is a horrible idea.

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[prj]

Well, I lowered mine 10 mm and it cost me less than €10.

Ok, I had to make some calculations myself.

The problem is it voids the suspension warranty if they are on the car and there is something wrong with it.
So you need to swap them back and forth as opposed to modifying the adaptations...

For MY24 and up it's the only way though for the end user (or a module), but any module that requires you to cut the original harness is a no-go imo.

 

[Dee]

The problem is it voids the suspension warranty if they are on the car and there is something wrong with it.

I don't have warranty nor a problem with the suspension (five years already).

So you need to swap them back and forth as opposed to modifying the adaptations...

That's a 10 minute job.

The point of my post is that you can lower your car for less than €10 (and you don't need fancy programmer's skills or a computer).
That's the beauty of air suspension.

PS But if you go lower than 15 mm you need realignment.
You can actually see it by the visible increase of camber.

 

[prj]

The point of my post is that you can lower your car for less than €10 (and you don't need fancy programmer's skills or a computer).
That's the beauty of air suspension.

You don't need any programming skills (you are not doing programming, just changing 4 numbers in a box!).
Computer - most people already have that.

I haven't checked the ID of the suspension controller but chances are you can use VCDS and OBD11 as well.

It takes just a minute to change the 4 adaptation values to lower or higher value, and that doesn't involve messing around under the car.
I just never see the point of doing something with hardware that can be done easily with software.

 

[Dee]

You don't need any programming skills (you are not doing programming, just changing 4 numbers in a box!).
Computer - most people already have that.

I haven't checked the ID of the suspension controller but chances are you can use VCDS and OBD11 as well.

It takes just a minute to change the 4 adaptation values to lower or higher value, and that doesn't involve messing around under the car.
I just never see the point of doing something with hardware that can be done easily with software.

I understand what you're saying but most people here are not into software, they rather pay big money for expensive kits or even €150 links.
My point is, again, to show it can be done for less than €10 and without any knowledge of computers/software.

Besides, if you want to do it by software you need the right program (3VIN-VCDS is €300, OBD11 doesn't work on Taycan).
So you need at least €300 before you can actually do something.

You, as a WizKid, knows how to do this.
I, and many others here on this forum, don't.
I checked my VCDS and even found the security code for the module but still I don't dare to change anything.
It was said you can't even do this in VCDS so...

Hardware is more my territory, that's all, especially when it's less than €10 (and it's fun to work on your own car).
Cheers!

 

[prj]

So you need at least €300 before you can actually do something.

That is not true, see above. You can have a piwis3 installation for 50 EUR.

Maybe I should build in a paid service in MapEV Diag for this incl. storing the original (correct) data on the server and ability to restore it at any time.

 

[William992]

That would be an instant buy for me. Most likely the same applies for other software enhancements.

 

[Dee]

That is not true, see above. You can have a piwis3 installation for 50 EUR.

Still more than €10.

 

[Dee]

Maybe I should build in a paid service in MapEV Diag for this incl. storing the original (correct) data on the server and ability to restore it at any time

Excellent idea.

 

[prj]

Still more than €10.

Infinitely more useful though.

Very good idea.

But again, most people don't dare to use a program on their Taycan (unless it's one-click easy), let alone know where the OBD port is.

I don't think that's true in the context of this forum. General population - probably. But then the general population isn't trying to slam their car, they just drive it as-is.

You are also overestimating how many people that own these cars want to get down dirty under the thing. Most people are terrified of touching anything hardware related.

I have the perspective after being the industry for 20 years. I can rebuild and blueprint an engine and so on, so it's nothing special for me, but the same way you are scared of a computer, the majority is scared of doing any physical modifications on the car.

 

[bwherry]

Hell, for the older cars I could add a lowering mode into MapEV Diag... but no point to spend time on that, since it's a free tool.

@prj you could also perhaps unlock a lowering mode in MapEV Diag for folks that have purchased a MapEV performance upgrade. Bit of a value add, and one more differentiating factor vs. other tuning options... (I'll probably spring for a MapEV tune, but want to get these battery cell recalls out of the way first ) Getting the power unlocked in my GTS and being able to drop the car like 10mm would be extra super nice indeed. My $.02.

Brian

 

[prj]

@prj you could also perhaps unlock a lowering mode in MapEV Diag for folks that have purchased a MapEV performance upgrade. Bit of a value add, and one more differentiating factor vs. other tuning options... (I'll probably spring for a MapEV tune, but want to get these battery cell recalls out of the way first ) Getting the power unlocked in my GTS and being able to drop the car like 10mm would be extra super nice indeed. My $.02.

Brian

Yeah, I could do that. The only thing is that it will work until MY23. From MY24 the cars have SFD2 and there is no way to unlock that without an official PIWIS account. So for newer cars the lowering links method is the way to go.

 

[Dee]

I don't think that's true in the context of this forum.
......
......doing any physical modifications on the car.

You're replying to a quote I have removed.
You were a bit too quick.

Can you edit your reply please?

 

[MissionE]

Hey all,

I recently discovered the Brabus SportXtra Suspension Lowering Module - must've been from a "you might also like" ad from looking at Taycan bits & pieces or something. Seems like an alternative to the CETE Active Suspension Control module (that's been on backorder everywhere for a while) in that it apparently lowers different amounts for the different ride height levels. Not an overall lowering trick like lowering links. The lowering amounts it lists are:

• Lift: no lowering compared to standard (Lift)
• Medium: a lowering of approx. 20 mm compared to the series (Medium)
• Lowered: a lowering of approx. 20 mm compared to the series (Lowered)
• Low: a lowering of approx. 10 mm to the series (Low)

That product page also touts "The kit can be shipped and is very easy to assemble thanks to the plug & play system." so I'm intrigued. It ain't cheap - actually more expensive than the CETE unit (if/when available). Bulletproof Automotive has it for $1,995 and it's a whopping $2,294 at Vivid Racing. Remains to be seen if the lowering amounts are actually fixed per that listing ^^^, or if those are maxima or something. I'm also curious about exactly how it plugs & plays... (the CETE system is nearly plug & play, but still requires getting under the car & splicing into a wire in a wiring harness) Also if there's some accompanying app that can be used to, say, disable the lowering if the car is being brought in to the dealership for service.

I've inquired to those two retailers about this stuff and will report back with whatever I find out. If it's actually an easy, plug & play system, it might be a decent alternative to lowering links or CETE, even at that steep price...

Anybody have experience with this unit or know more about it?

Brian

Still looking for a facia replacement for the incredibly normal looking .2 front end.

 

[PhillyTCT4S]

bwherry, thats a great idea. PRJ I already have your module but if you could also offer option to lower the car - I am next in line.

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