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you're right, I already had in mind to create a holding (shell) company, but not in Hungary, so if it's doable with a EU VAT registered company then good, if not then you just loose the 7 points difference - main interest being then the huge rebates mentioned by Janos. I'll probably wait it out...

same on my MY20 T Turbo, I would dream of 3,2 miles / kwh. Right now I'm around 3 * kilometers* per kwh, ie 1.9 miles, but it's really bad winter conditions, and doing only very small trips in city or inter-city, ie worst of the worst I'll get

this MY25 is listed at 138K€ : https://finder.porsche.com/hu/hu-HU/dealer/details/porsche-taycan-4-black-edition-uj-M7K8RW?model=taycan&dealership=8942&order=price_desc&condition=used&condition=porsche_approved&condition=new ie ~109K€ without VAT. ie they'd sell it for 70-75K€ without VAT, ie...

ah, so in France we'd gain the VAT difference (ours is 20%), ie 7 points on top of ~10 points negotiation, not bad. You mentioned potential 30-35% off Taycans on stock, could be attractive enough to justify the whole organization.

thanks Janos, impossible for me then, damn, this one's beautiful :) https://finder.porsche.com/hu/hu-HU/dealer/details/porsche-911-carrera-4-gts-cabriolet-uj-NQ28NN?dealership=8942&condition=new&condition=used&condition=porsche_approved&order=price_desc means you could get it for ~165K€ instead...

this one is may 2024, should be J1.1 but it looks like a J1.2 ? And the stated range of 620km is typically what I'd like to have (ie a solid 450km on highway)...

I looked up Segond group, they're a luxury car dealer (very nice Bugatti btw lol). I had equivalents in Paris but I preferred sticking to dealership 100% owned by Porsche. ok so MY25 Taycan minimum, I was considering downgrading to a 4S to minimize the money I have to put on top, and get a much...

hey hey Pierre :) I'm with you on that one, which dealer is it exactly ? I haven't tried with mine yet (Porsche Paris Ouest). I have in mind a trade-in either for a 36 months lease on the new Cayenne (if I like driving it), or for a newer used Taycan. In the latter case, do you guys think only a...

I could resell it in France, and order from Hungary (MY26 at -25% or stock of MY25 at -35% would be interesting), can you please share the details of your dealer ? maybe they have a website to shop around or is it only by calling / visiting them ?

oh ok, well could still be interesting if coupled to a 36 months lease and trade-in of my current Turbo J1.1

wow nice, never heard that in France, at -25% I'd order right away the Cayenne EV I speced :)

Exactly the same for my Turbo - I know 21'' is "worse-everything", but the looks is crazy, when you see them you don't give a shit about all the negatives lol

héhé Dee, almost the same I bought, exactly the same look except mine is a 2020 "Turbo", no S But I agree with your previous comment, there were ~2700 Taycans in the main European countries for sale when I looked for mine, out of these only a few tens were Turbo S, and less than 100 were Turbo...

you're right : that's my group - 75K€ for my Turbo lol :CWL: It was the max entry ticket I wanted to put to test the "porsche world"

lol, can't wait to change my house just to be able to fit this huge charging "plate" I've seen on the new Cayenne video :CWL: => Marketing victim <=

really cheap, that was the cost of KWH in France 20 years ago, went up like crazy the past years but going down again, we're at ~14 cents euro at home, and about 29 cents at the lowest if you charge outside

Exactly the same for me Derek, like an old cinema curtain opening from the center to the sides, but after that in my case it can also darken just one or more small zones (I mean without closing the whole "curtain" back), I suppose it's what the PDLS+ option means

fully agree Dee, my used Turbo from June 2020 is running like a charm, all recalls & updates done, had it for 1,5 months only but it's a pleasure despite the weaker range in the super cold winter we've had

call me old-fashioned, but I prefer bullshit announcements from n°1 WW, in this case CATL : https://carnewschina.com/2026/02/02/catl-claims-new-5c-battery-lasts-1-8m-km-even-under-ultra-fast-charging/ Anyway, let's wait until we can drive one :)

lol same for me it's my only car ! I again had today a bunch of school kids + teachers telling me "sir your car is beautiful", twice in the same afternoon, must have been like a few tens of times since 1 month I'm driving it, funny how it actually opens up discussion with people instead of...