Active Lane Keep - ALK

[Mats]

Hi, I just got my CT4S MY22 a couple of weeks ago as replacement for a Volvo XC90 T8 for daily all year around use. In general, I'm very happy with Taycan. Being a Porsche owner for decades currently also driving a 991 4S convertible, I can say that the Taycan is a true Porsche in build, driving experiences, etc.
As the Taycan was going to be the main car including for long trips within Scandinavia and Europe, I was particular in getting the right assistant features while configurating the car. Seriously discussed the various options with the sales representative before locking the configuration. Based on those discussions, I opted among other things for ACC and LKA, which I thought and was told included the feature of active lane keep.
As per the manual and my initial driving experiences, I had both the LKA and the ALK including the steering wheel on the display after activating the ACC. Since a few days back there is no ALK anymore, just the LKA. If it disappeared after a PCM update, I'm not sure.
After reading several threads here on the forum and checking the current configurator, it seems that you only can get the ALK together with the Inodrive PID package. A package that to me includes some annoying and disturbing features. Is it really true that you can't get get the ALK in combination with LKA? A combo that really fits well together as LKA alone doesn't assist that much.
From some threads, I understand that in the after market (POD) it is possible to aquire the ALK stand alone as long as you already have the ACC but that POD at this point is not available for MY22. An views or experiences on this?
Really keen to get a proper ALK for my long trips as true safety feature and more relaxed driving experience. Sorry for the long text....//Mats

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[Gubbjaevel]

Yes.

I "missed out" on the same on my 1st Taycan. The manuals are ambigous to say the least.

To have ALK you need PID.

(By POD I assume you mean FOD - Function on Demand)

 

[Mats]

Yes.

I "missed out" on the same on my 1st Taycan. The manuals are ambigous to say the least.

To have ALK you need PID.

(By POD I assume you mean FOD - Function on Demand)

Yes, you are correct. It should be Function on Demand. I will discuss the matter again with the Porsche Center tomorrow and what can be done add this much wanted feature.

 

[McgR]

I am in the same boat as you are. Switched my X5 45e for a Taycan CT (4 not 4S).

Would by nice to hear some comments from you about the daily use and longer trips in cold climate. Did you buy a roof box for longer trips?

I am also between ACC en Innodrive. The dealer advised against Innodrive because of false braking because the Belgian road are too complicated. The function works better in Germany.

You can purchase ALK as function on demand (FOD) but apparently there are some problems with model year 22 in other threads. These will probably be solved.

I think I read somewhere the dealer could install it. Maybe they can confirm tomorrow.

I also just need ALK and not Innodrive. Thinking about ordering Innodrive from factory anyway and just drive in ACC with ALK mode. Innodrive from factory also includes some extra features not included in Innodrive with FOD.

 

[Mats]

I am in the same boat as you are. Switched my X5 45e for a Taycan CT (4 not 4S).

Would by nice to hear some comments from you about the daily use and longer trips in cold climate. Did you buy a roof box for longer trips?

I am also between ACC en Innodrive. The dealer advised against Innodrive because of false braking because the Belgian road are too complicated. The function works better in Germany.

You can purchase ALK as function on demand (FOD) but apparently there are some problems with model year 22 in other threads. These will probably be solved.

I think I read somewhere the dealer could install it. Maybe they can confirm tomorrow.

I also just need ALK and not Innodrive. Thinking about ordering Innodrive from factory anyway and just drive in ACC with ALK mode. Innodrive from factory also includes some extra features not included in Innodrive with FOD.

Yes, I think you are right about possibility of disconnecting the innodrive and juste use ACC and ALK and by that avoid the innodrive being too sensitive.
Haven't been doing any real long trips so far but looking forward to this coming spring. The most have been 100-120 km, but long enough to partly been using ALK. Might consider a roof box if ever needed.

 

[Mats]

Coming back to my question about ALK after having a chat with my Porsche Center. LKA Lane Keep Assist comes as std with the car. ALK can only be ordered from the factory together with the PID Porsche Innodrive. IMO as well as the Porsche guy, LKA and AKL should be offered as ONE package. LKA as stand alone has a very weak functionality. Actually to the extent of being a bit unsafe if you trust it too much in bringing the car back into the lane and with a lot of swirling.
ALK as well as PID are available to buy or rent in aftermarket sale using FOD. Most probably, PID does in this case not include ALK as it can or must be acquired separately. Good news to me as I don't fancy the other features of PID.
However, bad to me as FOD currently is not available for MY22 and no info about when it will be offered.

 

[Kayone73]

My Cross Turismo comes with a free 3 month trial of ALK and Innodrive (I didn't option either in my build, only ACC which works well) and here's my overall impression how well the Porsche ALK works:

I own a Kia Telluride SUV and my wife primarily drives a Tesla Model Y which I use frequently as well.

Tesla's Autopilot highway driving aids has one of the best ALK systems on the market, it really stays centered in the lane well without bouncing off the sides of the lane.

My Kia also has very solid highway driving aids which is about 80% of the capability of the Telsa lane keep assist and also very usable.

Porsche's ALK system is nowhere near as useful as the two systems I mentioned above, it tends to bounce off the lane markers more often to keep the car in the lane and you cannot let the wheel go for more than 2-3 sec before it angrily beeps at you to keep your hands on the wheel. I think Porsche COULD have programmed a more autonomous lane keep assist system, but given the Porsche ethos (that these cars are meant to be DRIVEN with hands on the wheel) that the lane keep assistance is fairly minimal and you won't be playing on your smartphone or falling alseep at the wheel. You will definitely be driving your car as it helps to keep your car from wandering out of lane (and even that isn't 100% foolproof)

so knowing that, its up to you if you want to option this into your total purchase price.

 

[silversurfer]

I use ALK quite a bit. Surprised actually. It's not terribly invasive and I've not experienced the bouncing off the lane edge.

I rarely use Innodrive even on longer trips. Only if I want true hands free driving. I have noticed the false braking on Innodrive and it's also not helpful when trying to pass others or switch lanes. I must say though that Innodrive shines in stop and go traffic. As your speed increases and driving becomes more engaged, the car will fight you and/or ask you to remain engaged more often.

 

[submatrix]

As already mentioned, once you have FoD available, you can rent ALK on a month to month basis or buy it and have it for the lifetime of the car. As I already have ACC as optioned from the factory on my car (required to have the necessary camera hardware to support ALK), I do the former and add ALK for 1 month when I'm about to take a road trip. You do not need to buy/rent InnoDrive in this case.

As @Kayone73 mentioned ALK is serviceable, but not that great. Instead of Tesla Autopilot where I basically didn't have to pay attention at all other than unusual situations (someone driving recklessly, debris in the road, lane lines disappear), with the Taycan I basically have to half steer at all times. It still helps reduce fatigue, but ALK will often lose the ability to auto steer and will not give you any audible warning when it does. If you aren't paying attention and expect the car to steer and then it suddenly doesn't, you can find yourself drifting into the next lane.

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