Tesla Super Chargers now open to all EVs in California

[enzo5000]

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/tesla-charging-stations-open-electric-vehicles-19429530.php

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[daveo4EV]

unclear - no details

 

[swhsv]

But also - and more importantly - Elon apparently just announced that he’s laying off the entire Supercharger division.

https://www.autoblog.com/2024/04/30/tesla-lays-off-execs-cuts-supercharger-division/

 

[fullmetalbaal]

But also - and more importantly - Elon apparently just announced that he’s laying off the entire Supercharger division.

https://www.autoblog.com/2024/04/30/tesla-lays-off-execs-cuts-supercharger-division/

Would not read too much into that.
He keeps doing that: firing supposedly key VPs or dismantling entire teams.
People keep seeing doom and gloom.
Turns out that unfortunately or fortunately, people, and especially VPs, are often much more replaceable than we would like to acknowledge.

It's not just Tesla either... He fired the people in charge of SpaceX satellites at a critical time - yet they are still beating everybody else to the market by years.

I think it's more telling that other OEMs suffer delay after delay, issue after issue, and it takes YEARS for consequences to happen, if at all.

 

[slothinker]

unclear - no details

It's nearly impossible to understand how Newsom could make an announcement like that without some exec from Tesla standing next to him or at least putting out a PR announcement.

As far as I can see from Tesla's California supercharger map there are the same 3 stations open to non-Tesla EVs as has been the case for about a year: 2 near Sacramento and 1 in Scott's Valley in the Bay Area. In my town at any given point we have 25-50 Tesla charging stations ready and waiting (with almost all their bays empty hour after hour). (We also have a big Tesla charging station at the Madonna Inn which is very, very busy.)

 

[d00d]

Since he drove up in a Ford, probably it's the already announced partnership with Tesla.

 

[hifi239]

Nothing new click bait. This is badly written, and is simply referring to the national two-year phase-in that now only supports Ford and Rivian. As done above by slothinker (Kahneman?) our brothers and sisters in the Golden State can verify by telling the Tesla app they have an adapter, and confirming no new supercharger stations are available.

 

[WasserGKuehlt]

Would not read too much into that.
He keeps doing that: firing supposedly key VPs or dismantling entire teams.
People keep seeing doom and gloom.
Turns out that unfortunately or fortunately, people, and especially VPs, are often much more replaceable than we would like to acknowledge.

It's not just Tesla either... He fired the people in charge of SpaceX satellites at a critical time - yet they are still beating everybody else to the market by years.

I think it's more telling that other OEMs suffer delay after delay, issue after issue, and it takes YEARS for consequences to happen, if at all.

Firing VPs is fine; cutting entire divisions, from VP on down, is admitting you failed. (Or that you’re a lunatic, acting on a whim. We’ll see which is it in the coming days.)

 

[fullmetalbaal]

Firing VPs is fine; cutting entire divisions, from VP on down, is admitting you failed. (Or that you’re a lunatic, acting on a whim. We’ll see which is it in the coming days.)

Or both.
But my point is only that the end result is still often not bad from the outside.

I wouldn't' want to work there, but in many ways the results are probably better than the "let's swap out the VP". That failing VP built that whole org... so just promoting from within, or even putting a new VP atop that failing org, is going to look better from the outside - but not necessarily the best path forward medium / long term.

He's done similar harsh cuts on retail before - I still think that the Tesla sales experience beats Porsche's hands down.

At the end of the day, as a Porsche driver my concern is: do I think this will meaningfully change the availability and/or quality of superchargers for non-Tesla drivers.
And I don't think this really says anything. It could, it could not.
All of Musk's companies make these seemingly erratic turns. But they are run differently, and it's hard to trace a line from any one decision to outcomes.

 

[miatnorman94]

I had a long drive planned last year and ended up hunting for chargers the whole way, so this would have saved a ton of stress.

On a random side note, while filling out some paperwork for a small grant in Spain, I stumbled on pedir ayudas—super handy for tracking local aid and resources.

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