CT to ST

[cityhpper]

Dreading telling the mrs.

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[senwar]

Its highly possible.....!

 

[ptodorov0]

I have had the rear bike prep on both my Taycans and never used it primarily because I refuse to pay the extortionate price for the rear cycle carrier.

I have PSCB on my GTS but rather than the standard white calipers went black. It does look better. So both cars you are looking at have PSCB, right?

VLC - fairly rare and fairly pointless imho.

PDCC - non essential too and unlikely you'd feel the benefit.

Burmester - not a deal breaker over Bose.

That said and all other things being equal the cost of these extras on a new car is easily £15K and so for a £2K uplift is clearly a bargain.

Can't agree on the PDCC. My 4S has PDCC, PTV+, rear wheel steering and PDCC makes a ton of differrence. In Normal mode there's almost no difference, but in Sport/Sport Plus chassis becomes much stiffer and PDCC virtually takes all the body roll away. In my experience PDCC is a pretty essential option on a heavy car if you like to do some twists on the weekends.

 

[W1NGE]

Is there any way to check option costs from gen 1 models any more (just to check a few things)?

Hatfield have come back with a great deal, in fact making it cheaper than the one I was originally looking at despite the spec being ridiculously higher as well! Still took a hit on the CT4 (£70k trade, £90k paid) but that's way better than I thought, for example Motorway is quoting £54k! And given the GTS had a book price of over £60k more than I paid for mine, its a bit of a no brainer.

Dreading telling the mrs.

What options? I have my original build sheet and could see if I have it.

Remember there was a ludicrous price increase of around 10% last year and then the crash came which over inflated the price discounts.

 

[W1NGE]

Can't agree on the PDCC. My 4S has PDCC, PTV+, rear wheel steering and PDCC makes a ton of differrence. In Normal mode there's almost no difference, but in Sport/Sport Plus chassis becomes much stiffer and PDCC virtually takes all the body roll away. In my experience PDCC is a pretty essential option on a heavy car if you like to do some twists on the weekends.

I had it on my Cayenne GTS and the only time I experienced what it could do was at a driver experience at Silverstone. Expensive and I never driver like I stole anything. Interesting that it has now been ditched for MY25 in favour of Active Ride.

GTS has PTV+ as standard and i added PSP and RAS making a conscious decision not to go mad and add PDCC. 2nd hand market if the car has it then fine.

 

[senwar]

What options? I have my original build sheet and could see if I have it.

Remember there was a ludicrous price increase of around 10% last year and then the crash came which over inflated the price discounts.

I've just been sent the full sheet now. MY24, registered 11/12/23. Price £111,200, total build with options, £152,152 (that's a nice OCD figure). Price, £89,990. Makes my depreciation look miniscule!

 

[W1NGE]

I've just been sent the full sheet now. MY24, registered 11/12/23. Price £111,200, total build with options, £152,152 (that's a nice OCD figure). Price, £89,990. Makes my depreciation look miniscule!

Its a crime...but go for it.

 

[senwar]

Its a crime...but go for it.

Ordered. Away this weekend so speaking again Tuesday to work out when to collect

Excited now. Not driven a GTS but suspect it’s one you don’t really need to isn’t it.

Thanks for the help on here - great forum.

 

[Bosse]

Has anyone made the direct swap?

Mentioned before but with prices as they are I’m hankering for an ST GTS and have a pretty decent(ish) opportunity to get one that’s the same age as my CT4 (just under 6 months).

Haven’t drive an ST nor a GTS yet but man maths are pushing me and I’m very tempted. Really invested in the electric world and loving the Taycan as it is.

I chose the CT over an ST due to nerves about clearance (I do occasionally drive on rough roads) but now realise this isn’t as essential.

Anyway has anyone done this and any positive/negatives?

I did the exact swap. Drove Cross turismo 4 for a year, then got a sport turiso 4 1 year ago. The biggest drawback is that im missing all-wheel-drive (I live in Norway). Other then that i find it looks much better without the plastic wheel covers.

The clearance is only an issue over speedbumps. I solved it by changing the chassi air suspension to sport.

 

[Boss Hogg]

Excited now. Not driven a GTS but suspect it’s one you don’t really need to isn’t it.

I had a GTS loaner when my CT4S was last in the workshop. I was surprised how much faster / immediate it was with shaper handling but I enjoyed the rear bias the most, you'll love it.

 

[Murph7355]

Sorry, forgetting this isn't just a UK site!

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Me

The arch enemy (red)

I take back my advice. We cannot be friends.

Who'd have thought there'd be someone who gets it all so wrong on this forum

 

[Squiden]

I traded my 2020 4S for a 2023 GTS ST, and don't regret it at all. I do have a couple bumps along my work route that I have to go slower over than my 4S because I now scrape lightly in the GTS, and with the RS wheels my range dropped by ~15% which I wasn't counting on (I'm sure that is a combination of the wider wheels as well as the non-areo design). But the GTS is noticeably faster, and you won't miss gravel mode - the car is rock-solid in slick conditions in my opinion.

 

[senwar]

I take back my advice. We cannot be friends.

Who'd have thought there'd be someone who gets it all so wrong on this forum

Booooooo!

Haha. /enemy ?

 

[senwar]

I traded my 2020 4S for a 2023 GTS ST, and don't regret it at all. I do have a couple bumps along my work route that I have to go slower over than my 4S because I now scrape lightly in the GTS, and with the RS wheels my range dropped by ~15% which I wasn't counting on (I'm sure that is a combination of the wider wheels as well as the non-areo design). But the GTS is noticeably faster, and you won't miss gravel mode - the car is rock-solid in slick conditions in my opinion.

Thanks. The scrape comment makes me nervous though haha. Good to hear you find it rock solid ?

I’m hoping range isn’t hit too much - I’ve got 21” CT wheels on my current but will see.

 

[W1NGE]

I did the exact swap. Drove Cross turismo 4 for a year, then got a sport turiso 4 1 year ago. The biggest drawback is that im missing all-wheel-drive (I live in Norway). Other then that i find it looks much better without the plastic wheel covers.

The clearance is only an issue over speedbumps. I solved it by changing the chassi air suspension to sport.

ST4 is all wheel drive as per your CT4.

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