Sponsored

Extend Porsche Charging Service

Vespercooper

Active Member
First Name
Scott
Joined
Jul 7, 2021
Threads
3
Messages
33
Reaction score
4
Location
Edinburgh
Vehicles
Taycan Cross
Country flag
My Taycan is now 3 years old and i have the option to extend the charging service for cheaper Ionity charging. Not sure what other companies offer discount through Porsche. Should i extend with Porsche or are there better options such as the Ionity app?
Sponsored

 

LotusPhil

Active Member
First Name
Phil
Joined
Jun 27, 2023
Threads
6
Messages
41
Reaction score
14
Location
Lancashire UK
Vehicles
AMG C43, Mustang Mach E, Hopefully a Taycan soon..
Country flag
If I remember the correctly the renewal fee is a bargain at £0…
Phil
 
OP
OP

Vespercooper

Active Member
First Name
Scott
Joined
Jul 7, 2021
Threads
3
Messages
33
Reaction score
4
Location
Edinburgh
Vehicles
Taycan Cross
Country flag
Thanks Phil. Didn't realise it was free, nothing normally is with Porsche.
I struggled to find the original threads which have now appeared with your link. I can't be searching the correct way as I knew this had been discussed many times.
 

Scandinavian

Well-Known Member
First Name
Peter
Joined
Nov 3, 2019
Threads
52
Messages
3,904
Reaction score
3,549
Location
France
Vehicles
Taycan T, Aston Martin DB9, Porsche 996 C4 Cab, i4
Country flag

simcity

Well-Known Member
First Name
Sean
Joined
May 22, 2022
Threads
40
Messages
1,546
Reaction score
1,288
Location
Suffolk, UK
Vehicles
'23 Taycan Turbo
Country flag
If I remember the correctly the renewal fee is a bargain at £0…
Phil
Only within the 3 year period unfortunately. Tarifs have now changed (gone up) too. So it's not really "cheap" once you're out of the honeymoon period.
 


LotusPhil

Active Member
First Name
Phil
Joined
Jun 27, 2023
Threads
6
Messages
41
Reaction score
14
Location
Lancashire UK
Vehicles
AMG C43, Mustang Mach E, Hopefully a Taycan soon..
Country flag
I stand corrected when I renewed it last time it was free but my 71plate Taycans 3 year subscription runs out at the end of the month…. The email arrived this morning. It’s £13.99 a month to keep the cheapish DC charging option at Porsche and IONITY or free if you want to pay the same as everywhere else.
Dont think I’ll bother as I spent 30 minutes on the phone to IONITY this week whilst standing in the rain waiting for their chargers at Doncaster Holiday Inn to reboot.
 
OP
OP

Vespercooper

Active Member
First Name
Scott
Joined
Jul 7, 2021
Threads
3
Messages
33
Reaction score
4
Location
Edinburgh
Vehicles
Taycan Cross
Country flag
No point in me paying the £13.99/month. I charge at home mainly but use Ionity and MFG when I have to, probably only 2-3 times a month. There is a new Ionity charger which I could use instead of MFG. I'll have to see if the ionity card or free PCS makes more sense.
 

Murph7355

Well-Known Member
First Name
Andy
Joined
Feb 1, 2022
Threads
25
Messages
1,777
Reaction score
1,552
Location
UK
Vehicles
GTS ST; TVR Griffith 500; Caterham 7; Volvo XC90
Country flag
You'd have to be using a lot of public charging monthly to make it worth it.
 


Arjan_

Well-Known Member
First Name
Arjan
Joined
Apr 26, 2020
Threads
4
Messages
178
Reaction score
152
Location
Nederland
Vehicles
BMW M3, Porsche Taycan Turbo S
Country flag
I switched to a Tesla subscription only 9.99 eur per month and more charging points then Ionity in the Netherlands plus lower rates. Only the charging is slightly slower then at Ionity
 

Throb

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 30, 2022
Threads
8
Messages
528
Reaction score
658
Location
NL & UK
Vehicles
Audi R8 V10, Cayenne EV (on order), BMW iX3 (on order), MB C-Class, Renault R5
Country flag
You'd have to be using a lot of public charging monthly to make it worth it.
What do you consider "a lot"?

It's quite easy to find the break even point. If you take a scenario where you only use Ionity (the PAYG rate is £0.74/kWh), the amount of energy you need per month to cover the monthly subscription costs are:

Porsche Charging Service Plus (£13.99)

Price per kWh at Ionity = £0.39

Break even point = 39.98 kWh per month


Ionity Passport Power (£10.50)

Price per kWh at Ionity = £0.43

Break even point = 33.90 kWh per month



I don't think taking either of these amounts per month is a lot, but then depends on the individual. It doesn't even have to be in one session, obviously. Just taking it over multiple sessions in one month, and the subscriptions pay for themselves.
 

Murph7355

Well-Known Member
First Name
Andy
Joined
Feb 1, 2022
Threads
25
Messages
1,777
Reaction score
1,552
Location
UK
Vehicles
GTS ST; TVR Griffith 500; Caterham 7; Volvo XC90
Country flag
What do you consider "a lot"?

It's quite easy to find the break even point. If you take a scenario where you only use Ionity (the PAYG rate is £0.74/kWh), the amount of energy you need per month to cover the monthly subscription costs are:

Porsche Charging Service Plus (£13.99)

Price per kWh at Ionity = £0.39

Break even point = 39.98 kWh per month


Ionity Passport Power (£10.50)

Price per kWh at Ionity = £0.43

Break even point = 33.90 kWh per month



I don't think taking either of these amounts per month is a lot, but then depends on the individual. It doesn't even have to be in one session, obviously. Just taking it over multiple sessions in one month, and the subscriptions pay for themselves.
I'm in the fortunate position of barely needing to ever use public charging. The one "over range" journey I do regularly now has a destination charger (I funded it via similar maths to what you did here :)). So I might need a top up charge once or twice a year at the outside.

Of course what your calcs also show is that the Porsche service is not as good value as Ionity's passport.

(Ionity's PAYG rate didn't used to be that high too - so all of these things are variable).
 

Throb

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 30, 2022
Threads
8
Messages
528
Reaction score
658
Location
NL & UK
Vehicles
Audi R8 V10, Cayenne EV (on order), BMW iX3 (on order), MB C-Class, Renault R5
Country flag
Of course what your calcs also show is that the Porsche service is not as good value as Ionity's passport.
If you barely need to charge away from home, then of course, any scheme is not going to be worth it. What it does show is that the bar at which is *does* become cost effective is very low.

The Porsche service doesn't appear good value compared to Ionity's own scheme, but it also allows you access to many thousands of other chargers, including AC chargers, whereas Ionity doesn't. Of course, it depends on what price you pay for those (probably not competitive).
 

simcity

Well-Known Member
First Name
Sean
Joined
May 22, 2022
Threads
40
Messages
1,546
Reaction score
1,288
Location
Suffolk, UK
Vehicles
'23 Taycan Turbo
Country flag
The Porsche service doesn't appear good value compared to Ionity's own scheme, but it also allows you access to many thousands of other chargers, including AC chargers, whereas Ionity doesn't.
Beside the access / central billing through your Porsche account (if that's important to you) - I'm not sure the pricing on AC (or DC charging) on the 'new' pricing scheme from Porsche is good value either.

Once my three years pricing is up I'll be looking elsewhere for better value public charging.
 

Throb

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 30, 2022
Threads
8
Messages
528
Reaction score
658
Location
NL & UK
Vehicles
Audi R8 V10, Cayenne EV (on order), BMW iX3 (on order), MB C-Class, Renault R5
Country flag
Beside the access / central billing through your Porsche account (if that's important to you) - I'm not sure the pricing on AC (or DC charging) on the 'new' pricing scheme from Porsche is good value either.

Once my three years pricing is up I'll be looking elsewhere for better value public charging.
No, I agree. I'd probably take out an Ionity subscription, unless I have another car that offers even better prices via Ionity. My i5 comes with a year free of their charging service which includes Ionity, and the prices per kWh for Ionity were recently lowered to £0.33/kWh, and €0.34/kWh. So I just use my BMW charging card when plugging in my Macan to Ionity.
Sponsored

 
 








Top