Freeze date in 2 weeks. Here is the spec update

[CoolDadLo]

Some strange choices.
CF bumper trim, but no CF mirrors or CF B pillars.
VLC, which is a gimmick and if it breaks you'll be driving a loaner for over a month most likely. Instead of VLC the car would look much better if you specced the rest of the bits in CF.
Seat belts in the wrong color that don't match the chalk seats, surely that's a mistake?
Dash cam prep - The Porsche cam is pretty bad, I'd skip that.

For the wheels - those other options with the plastic air guides look absolutely hideous in real life. Go to a dealer and find a car with those, they look like shit and I've seen many posts on facebook of people ordering them and regretting it because they look nothing like in the configurator.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll go back and look at the small tweaks for sure.

The carbon fiber trim was my very last option I was debating on, other than my wheel confusion. Sure it was a 4k option so even I was like meh, IDK. But it won out at the end. The CF mirrors, I will do after market. I put a lot of real carbon on my MB and also my motorcycle and the results have been great. I was able to find after market side mirrors for the Taycan as well for a fraction of the cost. I didn't spec the B-pillars just yet. I don't know if I care for the look vs. cost. Meaning that even if it was pennies, that Id option it or not. I want the option to take it off if I don't approve, and I can do that aftermarket as well.

- The VLC: I can't live with the fear of it breaking. Either insurance of Porsche I'd think would deal with that. im the kind of dude who doesn't want a Turbo S, but wants my tech in a car. I did do some due diligence and spoke to my local service deal and a few others about if they had seen horror stories about the VLC. I had them pull up the order in the computer and they didn't get any flags about "ordering issues" in the US plant or Germany. So while not exact a fix, it calmed down any potential fears of back order. My USAA insurer also pays out any window claim, sunroof or back minus my deductible. I asked they specifically about this option.

- The seat belts: To your point I will go back and look at it. I wanted some contrast. I have red belts in the MB AMG, but wanted to maybe try something new that wasn't as striking a contrast. The grey is still in the same color family as the Volcano grey exterior as well as the carbon fiber bits on the interior. The chalk or more white option I felt would perhaps show more dirt from a spilled drink or snack.

- Im skipping the dash camera itself after reading reviews, I did however want the prep that I thought other cameras could use. I heard that its a nightmare to install after the fact and I don't tinker with those issues on my car.

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[CoolDadLo]

I think I have reviewed your build since I see you are still going for the VLC roof (when it malfunctions or cracks, remember me saying do not do it), 4+1 rear seats (useless, but looks like still in the build vs. what I did to wrap that middle storage in leather), then now I am noticing the seat belts in Slate Grey vs. matching Chalk (wonder the rationale) as well as Chrono Clock is White vs. matching Chalk. Also, not sure that you know that you have Steel rotors that will looks like rust all the time as brakes barely used since you are not adding PSCBs. Otherwise, glad you went for a lot of things that I find to exceed expectations (interior trim in exterior color and door sills in leather or race-tex).

One more, I consider a rookie mistake; to pay for weather mats on the build, I would ask the dealer to give them to you for free including the trunk mat if you want one. Kudos for not falling for another one, puddle projectors, as those can be had after market for much cheaper/better with several projection options.

As far as ATL pickup, I recommend against it and do the inspection at the dealer then take it to the PPF shop, otherwise driving the car back will be dinged up. While I did not do ATL delivery, my dealer took me to the ATL to drive cars, and the delivery space looked underwhelming and overall vibe was kind of boring, because it is a museum and working office after all, but you want to max your time on the track! However, you do get to drive a Taycan on the track and have lunch, whatever, to me not worth the time, cost, and have your car away from your home PPF shop. You can always go any time and pay to drive the cars.

I recommend Emporia EVSE for home use. All you need is to find a 60Amp circuit in the panel and make sure it is the shortest distance to the EVSE placement. Mine is so short that the copper is behind the wall and invisible as a result. Happy to help with that so you do not run expensive copper all over the place if no need to.

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The carbon fiber trim was my very last option I was debating on, other than my wheel confusion. Sure it was a 4k option so even I was like meh, IDK. But it won out at the end. The CF mirrors, I will do after market. I put a lot of real carbon on my MB and also my motorcycle and the results have been great. I was able to find after market side mirrors for the Taycan as well for a fraction of the cost. I didn't spec the B-pillars just yet. I don't know if I care for the look vs. cost. Meaning that even if it was pennies, that Id option it or not. I want the option to take it off if I don't approve, and I can do that aftermarket as well.

- The VLC: I can't live with the fear of it breaking. Either insurance of Porsche I'd think would deal with that. im the kind of dude who doesn't want a Turbo S, but wants my tech in a car. I did do some due diligence and spoke to my local service deal and a few others about if they had seen horror stories about the VLC. I had them pull up the order in the computer and they didn't get any flags about "ordering issues" in the US plant or Germany. So while not exact a fix, it calmed down any potential fears of back order. My USAA insurer also pays out any window claim, sunroof or back minus my deductible. I asked they specifically about this option.

- The seat belts: To your point I will go back and look at it. I wanted some contrast. I have red belts in the MB AMG, but wanted to maybe try something new that wasn't as striking a contrast. The grey is still in the same color family as the Volcano grey exterior as well as the carbon fiber bits on the interior. The chalk or more white option I felt would perhaps show more dirt from a spilled drink or snack.

- The Chrono clock was a last minute add. I wanted to break up the black with some white contrast. I'll have to double check, but I don't remember if it even gave me the option to choose chalk color for that....so I just chose the white.

- The steel brakes: I didn't think the $ was worth it for the upgrade. The full ceramic scared me in the long term cost. Im not going to track it more than maybe a few times, but I will drive it on some back roads from time to time. I intend to drive it so, rust should accumulate more than any other steel brakes im used to. Also the darker wheel choice will hide dust, unlike my Brembo's I have along with aluminum wheels on the AMG. I was nearly of that If I were to choose the white Aero wheels I was considering once upon a time.

- Im skipping the dash camera itself after reading reviews, I did however want the prep that I thought other cameras could use. I heard that its a nightmare to install after the fact and I don't tinker with those issues on my car.

- Haha, you and these floor mats! I'm happy with the deal I got off MSRP. If I reframe it, aren't they already paying for it in some ways?!?! But ok ok, I'll try for some freebies

- Thanks for the EV charger help. I will look those up and go with them if you say so and the price is right. I did want and hope I can fit the 60 AMP over the 50 amp unit. After all this spec' ing. I would hardly care less to try to research the best chargers from the hundreds out there

 

[CoolDadLo]

I hope you did not miss my feedback in Post #14, interested if that changed your mind about any options. Looks like I talked you out of the ATL pickup.

Speaking of dialed in, and your prep for the home EVSE, this is my self-proclaimed best EVSE setup you can possibly have with a picture of it and the garage layout.

The biggest benefit is that it is right next to the panel with shortest and invisible copper (cheapest and I do not even know it is there), direct wire (max speed with no sockets to overheat), and reaches all 3 cars if needed with Macan EV helping with the port being on the rear. I only have a Taycan with Macan EV on order.

This is the layout of the garage where the orange arrow is the EVSE in the picture. The cord is 25ft so it is good enough in my layout to reach to all 3 cars.

 

[CoolDadLo]

Thanks for the pics. My only follow up is that I park outside of my garage. My garage is my gym and for the motorcycles. Is this unit capable of being outside. I would think my receptacle needs to be stored outside so I can have my garage door closed and I can use it like a garden hose essentially.

 

[CoolDadLo]

Some strange choices.
CF bumper trim, but no CF mirrors or CF B pillars.
VLC, which is a gimmick and if it breaks you'll be driving a loaner for over a month most likely. Instead of VLC the car would look much better if you specced the rest of the bits in CF.
Seat belts in the wrong color that don't match the chalk seats, surely that's a mistake?
Dash cam prep - The Porsche cam is pretty bad, I'd skip that.

For the wheels - those other options with the plastic air guides look absolutely hideous in real life. Go to a dealer and find a car with those, they look like shit and I've seen many posts on facebook of people ordering them and regretting it because they look nothing like in the configurator.

Perfect info on the wheels. Im now locked in the RS spiders for good! The other items I think I already responded to some of them, I will look at the carbon fiber. And aren't the seatbelts supposed to be a break in the color pattern, for some contrast?

 

[SergeyIndy]

Thanks for the pics. My only follow up is that I park outside of my garage. My garage is my gym and for the motorcycles. Is this unit capable of being outside. I would think my receptacle needs to be stored outside so I can have my garage door closed and I can use it like a garden hose essentially.

Yes, Emporia EVSE that I have in the picture can be installed outdoor. Most modern EVSE's can be installed outdoor with no issues. Emporia is #1 so you do not need to look any further and now the latest version is even more resilient and will work perfectly outdoor.

 

[prj]

- The seat belts: To your point I will go back and look at it. I wanted some contrast. I have red belts in the MB AMG, but wanted to maybe try something new that wasn't as striking a contrast. The grey is still in the same color family as the Volcano grey exterior as well as the carbon fiber bits on the interior. The chalk or more white option I felt would perhaps show more dirt from a spilled drink or snack.

With the option you selected now, it's not contrast, rather it will look like you messed up the order IMO.
If you want contrast you probably want some kind of totally different color, but you already have the whole interior in two tone, and then adding a third color might be over the top.

Out of the seatbelt colors probably the red most likely would work the best for accent. Maybe brown, but the nothing else on the car is brown.
But having the seatbelts almost the color of the seats, but not quite - I don't think it'll look good. Up to you though.

I'd personally do red for the accents, as it goes really well with the exterior color of the car.
Also for the seats - a much more expensive option would be not to get the chalk interior, but get the centers in deviating color gray.
I had that on my Volcano Turbo S (and the belts also) and it looked good:

$5k option though.

Here's lavender centers from configurator with bordeaux stitching and red belts:

 

[SergeyIndy]

@CoolDadLo, let me try one more time as I can see a lot of confusion going on, primarily I may not be as clear as I could be.

VLC Roof: The roof can malfunction. I saw firsthand the agony of the owner where one of the segments would not turn off. This required 6 months wait (ok, say you get it overnight), then you have to gut it out of the car to replace, and it is a lot more complex than just a glass roof as it has wiring. I am very happy with my $300 removable shade and never have to worry about those segments malfunctioning. Plus, it looks terrible as milky white at rest and not tinted as I would expect. Then I looked through it at the sun, and it hardly blocks it, just disperses the sun.

Brake Rotors: This is not an ICE car that uses brakes all the time to scrape the rust. Taycan is an EV that rarely uses brakes, so the rust just stays there and spreads everywhere. You have 2 other options that you do not seem to know about. There is a PCSB (Carbide) and PCCB (Ceramic). I am suggesting a PCSB that have no rust and do look mirror like clean. I can make pictures of mine if you would like.

Chalk Belts: This is the biggest misconception that light belts get dirty and can stain. The belts are made of silk like stain resistant material and really easy to clean if you happen to spill something. Otherwise, the contrast they give is premium to match the Chalk seats. Also, dash Sports Chrono Clock happen to come in Chalk. That would bring it all together - just me.

EVSE: You seem to be new to EVs. You need a 60Amp circuit at the panel to get the max 48 Amp output from EVSE to the Taycan (11kW). However, if you can only squeeze 50Amp out of the electrical panel, then EVSE will output 40Amp (9.6kW) to the car, which what appears to be the new max as Porsche limited Macan EV and Taycan to that in US as far as I can tell. My point is that the drop/step from say 60Amp at panel to 48Amp to the car is by regulations and done automatically, which is to say that yes you can put a 60Amp unit (max rating for it) over 50Amp circuit and it will step it down by 20% by regulations to give you 40Amp to the car.

 

[CoolDadLo]

Usually when I can't decide between two wheel options, I take one as dedicated winter setup and the other for the rest of the year.
In your case with all-seasons that's not really applicable.

I'd order the car with the spyders (IMHO a GTS needs those in satin black), and then keep your eyes open for a nice used set of the other option you like. Get yourself a good floorjack so you can swap wheels whenever you like to change the look of the car for a while. If you can find the wheels for a good price and keep them in good condition, you wont lose much money on them when you want to sell them after a couple years.

Yea, I somewhat considered just that. RS spider, then look for some 20's and winter set if needed. Spiders for the win!

 

[prj]

Brake Rotors: This is not an ICE car that uses brakes all the time to scrape the rust. Taycan is an EV that rarely uses brakes, so the rust just stays there and spreads everywhere. You have 2 other options that you do not seem to know about. There is a PCSB (Carbide) and PCCB (Ceramic). I am suggesting a PCSB that have no rust and do look mirror like clean. I can make pictures of mine if you would like.

Would not recommend PSCB for brake feel and longevity.
I think you're overstating the rotor issues, the car cleans them every time you set off by only using friction brakes the first few times you use the brake pedal.

 

[CoolDadLo]

With the option you selected now, it's not contrast, rather it will look like you messed up the order IMO.
If you want contrast you probably want some kind of totally different color, but you already have the whole interior in two tone, and then adding a third color might be over the top.

Out of the seatbelt colors probably the red most likely would work the best for accent. Maybe brown, but the nothing else on the car is brown.
But having the seatbelts almost the color of the seats, but not quite - I don't think it'll look good. Up to you though.

I'd personally do red for the accents, as it goes really well with the exterior color of the car.
Also for the seats - a much more expensive option would be not to get the chalk interior, but get the centers in deviating color gray.
I had that on my Volcano Turbo S (and the belts also) and it looked good:


Th1s option is going to get me in trouble. I wanted the white interior with the dark exterior. An expensive option indeed, but I need a light interior for sure.

The red seat belts look too dull in the configurator. I have to think it's more of a bright red. They do accent the red calipers however and I don't dislike them. I have them in the current car, gives a sporty vibe and I think I was leaning more classy thought. The chalk seat belts aren't bad at all

$5k option though.

Here's lavender centers from configurator with bordeaux stitching and red belts:

 

[CoolDadLo]

Would not recommend PSCB for brake feel and longevity.
I think you're overstating the rotor issues, the car cleans them every time you set off by only using friction brakes the first few times you use the brake pedal.

That's what I was thinking and hoping. Those were never on my spec sheet from day one. That along with keeping a clean car, including wheels weekly. I just didn't see the cost. I heard it's steel or Full ceramic, just not the PSCB. Obviously not first hand knowledge on my end but this is all about getting perspective non the less

 

[freinando]

I think you're overstating the rotor issues, the car cleans them every time you set off by only using friction brakes the first few times you use the brake pedal.

Agree. I’m always prepared for weird brake feeling every morning because at least 3 times I brake initially the car is using the physical brakes. If ppl go with PSCB for looks, then totally understandable, but rust shouldn’t be a concern.

 

[SergeyIndy]

Would not recommend PSCB for brake feel and longevity.
I think you're overstating the rotor issues, the car cleans them every time you set off by only using friction brakes the first few times you use the brake pedal.

Self clean works may be for about 5 seconds and 2 brake presses - not enough to keep rust off. Very happy with PSCBs on Cayenne, Taycan, and Macan GTS ICE. Mirror like with no rust or brake dust. The feel has been addressed on Taycan via a campaign where they were recalibrated. I cannot see going back to Steel, but I have to on Macan EV on order.

Longevity is lifetime of the car. Cayenne 60k miles with heavy use with no brake service whatsoever, original pads and rotors. Taycan has had complaints of the PSCBs developing cracks because of limited use, but I have not seen mine impacted. Taycan brake service is only for age of 6 years and not wear. Please help me understand longevity concerns you have.

 

[CoolDadLo]

@CoolDadLo, let me try one more time as I can see a lot of confusion going on, primarily I may not be as clear as I could be.

VLC Roof: The roof can malfunction. I saw firsthand the agony of the owner where one of the segments would not turn off. This required 6 months wait (ok, say you get it overnight), then you have to gut it out of the car to replace, and it is a lot more complex than just a glass roof as it has wiring. I am very happy with my $300 removable shade and never have to worry about those segments malfunctioning. Plus, it looks terrible as milky white at rest and not tinted as I would expect. Then I looked through it at the sun, and it hardly blocks it, just disperses the sun.

Brake Rotors: This is not an ICE car that uses brakes all the time to scrape the rust. Taycan is an EV that rarely uses brakes, so the rust just stays there and spreads everywhere. You have 2 other options that you do not seem to know about. There is a PCSB (Carbide) and PCCB (Ceramic). I am suggesting a PCSB that have no rust and do look mirror like clean. I can make pictures of mine if you would like.

Chalk Belts: This is the biggest misconception that light belts get dirty and can stain. The belts are made of silk like stain resistant material and really easy to clean if you happen to spill something. Otherwise, the contrast they give is premium to match the Chalk seats. Also, dash Sports Chrono Clock happen to come in Chalk. That would bring it all together - just me.

EVSE: You seem to be new to EVs. You need a 60Amp circuit at the panel to get the max 48 Amp output from EVSE to the Taycan (11kW). However, if you can only squeeze 50Amp out of the electrical panel, then EVSE will output 40Amp (9.6kW) to the car, which what appears to be the new max as Porsche limited Macan EV and Taycan to that in US as far as I can tell. My point is that the drop/step from say 60Amp at panel to 48Amp to the car is by regulations and done automatically, which is to say that yes you can put a 60Amp unit (max rating for it) over 50Amp circuit and it will step it down by 20% by regulations to give you 40Amp to the car.

Ok. Sounds like you have some first hand experience with the VLC Roof. I am aware of the segments and what it claims to do. Am I right in my understanding that it is Milky white when 1.) in Park/ or the car is off, (Prob for privacy protection and direct sun exposure). Secondly when you option it to be in the translucent setting.

The seatbelts, I can update to chalk. It does look good in the 360 simulation.

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