More Porsche EV Software Woes

[W1NGE]

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsche-macan-ev-delayed-due-vw-software-woes

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[Tooney]

The Porsche IPO prospectus contains a lot of info about Taycans and EVs.
(Direct link from Porsche depends on your country. I have attached a copy --large file -- to this post.)
Search the prospectus for "Taycan" or "electrified vehicle"

Couple of excerpts:

Page 24: For example, the Group has had to initiate a number of recalls and voluntary service campaigns/workshops for the Taycan since its launch in order to address issues with hardware and software features that were not operating as intended, some of which affected all vehicles in some regions. The Group is currently analyzing a very small number of events where moisture may have entered the battery case. In such event the vehicles’ system is designed in such a way that messages are displayed during operation of the vehicles. If such messages are ignored or do not occur this may lead to thermal events or fire. The Company is not aware that any such cases have occurred to date while the vehicles were being operated by customers. As the Taycan is currently the only BEV of the Group, any further recalls or voluntary service campaigns related to the Taycan could potentially have a significant negative reputational impact on the Group and could negatively impact the Group’s ability to roll-out Electrified Vehicles in a timely manner, depending on the cause and nature of the remedial action.

Page 172: The Group estimates it has approximately 2.7 million registered customers (i.e., customers who owned at least one Porsche vehicle as of June of 2022). Porsche also has devoted long-term customers; for example, according to Group estimates, approximately 60% of customers who owned a Porsche vehicle more than ten years earlier still owned it as of April of 2022. Based on self-reporting by Group customers, the Group’s customer base had an average household income of approximately EUR 320,000 (gross; 42% tax rate assumed to calculate gross) in Germany, approximately EUR 410,000 (gross) in China and approximately EUR 510,000 (gross) in the United States (RMB/EUR exchange rate 0.1311; USD/EUR exchange rate 0.846). The Group’s customer base has grown through a combination of retention, with customer churn in 2021 (i.e., the number of registered customers at the beginning of 2021 who were not registered customers anymore at the end of 2021, divided by the total number of registered customers at the beginning of 2021) amounting to less than approximately 7%; expansion into new geographic markets, with the Group having so far reached around 120 markets (or countries) globally; and winning new customers with new products and services, for example, with approximately 60% of Taycan buyers from the first recorded Taycan buyer to June of 2022 being first time Porsche customers.

Pages 173 - 175: 12.2.4 Performance BEV transition leadership Porsche plans for EVs

 

[PanameraFrank]

Yeah, this has been out for a bit. What an absolute shitshow. If they truly are delaying the EV Macan just for the software, heads should be rolling. That's a massive problem.

It has been eye-opening to go from a Taycan into an i4. BMW's system feels about 2-3 generations newer/better. Everything is just ready to go, voice command works well, etc.

 

[W1NGE]

Yeah, this has been out for a bit. What an absolute shitshow. If they truly are delaying the EV Macan just for the software, heads should be rolling. That's a massive problem.

It has been eye-opening to go from a Taycan into an i4. BMW's system feels about 2-3 generations newer/better. Everything is just ready to go, voice command works well, etc.

Heads did role - VW CEO was sacked

 

[f1eng]

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/porsche-macan-ev-delayed-due-vw-software-woes

A head has rolled

https://insideevs.com/news/600575/volkswagen-group-fired-diess-because-software-unit-fiasco/

 

[B61]

Heads did role - VW CEO was sacked

And replaced by Porsche CEO

 

[W1NGE]

And replaced by Porsche CEO

Problem started in VW and impacts the entire group.

 

[B61]

Problem started in VW and impacts the entire group.

I know, we have already talked about that external software company, with an ISO9001 certificate

 

[bsclywilly]

The Porsche IPO prospectus contains a lot of info about Taycans and EVs.
(Direct link from Porsche depends on your country. I have attached a copy --large file -- to this post.)
Search for "Taycan" or "electrified vehicle"

That prospectus has a lot of interesting bits of info. Only got through half of it but thought this excerpt was interesting. Not surprising but good to know what they’re working on.

The Group’s ambition is for over 50% of new vehicles delivered to be Electrified Vehicles in 2025 and over 80% of new vehicles delivered to be BEVs in 2030. Among other initiatives, existing and future investments are focused on the introduction of additional BEV models or on the transition of the current ICE portfolio, building on the success of the Taycan, the Group’s first fully electrified Porsche, current research and development activities are focusing on the technological enhancement of the Taycan mid-cycle upgrade and the second generation. The Group plans to invest in the launch of the BEV version of the 718 model family as the first fully electric two-door sports car and is also investing in the electrification of the remaining model families, including the Macan BEV, which the Group plans to begin delivering in 2024. In the medium term, the Group expects to extend its product portfolio with a new, fully electric, luxury SUV model.

 

[kort]

I have some new wonkiness to report. my car has started to send random smart directions to the nav system. it is usually directing me to places I was recently at but never entered into the nav system. then yesterday I got a random notification that an apple podcast was now scheduled.
there seems to always be something with this car

 

[W1NGE]

I have some new wonkiness to report. my car has started to send random smart directions to the nav system. it is usually directing me to places I was recently at but never entered into the nav system. then yesterday I got a random notification that an apple podcast was now scheduled.
there seems to always be something with this car

Disable Smart Location in PCM NAV settings.

 

[FlyingPoint]

Same thing happened to me after the update/recall. It took me a while to figure out that the update turned on Smart Location function. I thought the car was haunted.

 

[W1NGE]

Same thing happened to me after the update/recall. It took me a while to figure out that the update turned on Smart Location function. I thought the car was haunted.

I have to fess up here as I didn't know what it was and enabled it after uPdate. Has been a feature since day 1 (2 years ago) and a pointless one at that as it ain't that smart!

 

[jvincent]

It has been eye-opening to go from a Taycan into an i4. BMW's system feels about 2-3 generations newer/better. Everything is just ready to go, voice command works well, etc.

My i4 eDrive 40 is complete and on the way to port. Good to hear that the software is competent.

 

[kort]

Disable Smart Location in PCM NAV settings.

did that, still received random directions

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