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[Amazon]

You know what ? i thing you might be right.

I played with the configurator.

If I remove HUD, RAS, ventilated seats, mobile charger, dark silver trim, Bose audio … in other words most of what’s missing on the RWD, the MSRP falls from 156k to 147k.

So you end up with a price difference of 17k and if you cut that in half as the car has almost lost 50% of its value in one year ( I still can’t get my head around that for a Porsche) you get a 8,5k difference.

then you add the fact that the RWD has 2200 kms.

You have to be very careful with options if you buy new. What a ruin !

It could actually be justified in some weird way but if options are worthless on a Porsche, even though they cost a real fortune, I thing Porsche should address this problem because it’s own pricing policy is going to fall apart.

Of that difference, how much was options? the difference between base rwd and base 4 was less than $10K in the US IIRC, which would make it about $5K as used cars.

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[whitex]

You know what ? i thing you might be right.

I played with the configurator.

If I remove HUD, RAS, ventilated seats, mobile charger, dark silver trim, Bose audio … in other words most of what’s missing on the RWD, the MSRP falls from 156k to 147k.

So you end up with a price difference of 17k and if you cut that in half as the car has almost lost 50% of its value in one year ( I still can’t get my head around that for a Porsche) you get a 8,5k difference.

then you add the fact that the RWD has 2200 kms.

You have to be very careful with options if you buy new. What a ruin !

It could actually be justified in some weird way but if options are worthless on a Porsche, even though they cost a real fortune, I thing Porsche should address this problem because it’s own pricing policy is going to fall apart.

You can also come to the same conclusion by looking at lease residual values. If the dealer will show you the formula (many will), it literally shows different depreciation percentages for base trim vs options. This is because wholesalers can only track resale value of trims at used car auctions, adding options would make things overly complex and reduce the number of "like cars" sold statistics. In Taycan case, there is a good chance majority of cars are totally unique, so if you considered all options, you could not determine the cars value based on same cars selling at auctions.

Of course Porsches tend to be heavy on options, which unfortunately hurts the resale wholesale values.

Generally speaking, for most brands, typically the base trim with no options will depreciate the least (both in percentage and total money).

 

[Murph7355]

If depreciation is a real concern, go in with your eyes very, very wide open. It's still unknown territory on these.

The 4S will always be worth more/be more readily saleable IMO. But as you're noting yourself, some will just want the cheaper car.

 

[Amazon]

You can also come to the same conclusion by looking at lease residual values. If the dealer will show you the formula (many will), it literally shows different depreciation percentages for base trim vs options. This is because wholesalers can only track resale value of trims at used car auctions, adding options would make things overly complex and reduce the number of "like cars" sold statistics. In Taycan case, there is a good chance majority of cars are totally unique, so if you considered all options, you could not determine the cars value based on same cars selling at auctions.

Of course Porsches tend to be heavy on options, which unfortunately hurts the resale wholesale values.

Generally speaking, for most brands, typically the base trim with no options will depreciate the least (both in percentage and total money).

thank you for your input and your time. I think what you are saying is 100% correct. All of this does not help the EV market in general. Imagine if this was the case for the 911 market. A fully loader 992 4s or 992 GTS would worth almost the same as a base and poorly equiped carrera 2. Nuts.

 

[Amazon]

If depreciation is a real concern, go in with your eyes very, very wide open. It's still unknown territory on these.

The 4S will always be worth more/be more readily saleable IMO. But as you're noting yourself, some will just want the cheaper car.

Depreciation is a concern, I won’t lie. But I could not afford a new Taycan, even with a 10 or 15% rebate. Ok, I could but I would not want to spend that kind of money on a car. 156k or even 130k is an insane amount of money for a car, except is you have « family money » or if you earn at least 3 times that amount per year.

This EV market situation is a good thing in some way be cause I can now buy an almost newTaycan for less money than a sporty BMW . This was just impossible before this day.

on the other hand, I have no idea what a taycan will be worth in 4 years and that’s not a good thing when you are spending 85k.

my biggest worry is that a taycan could actually be unsellable (is that a word ? ? ) … impossible to sell in a few years, even for 5k. It could become like trying to sell an IPhone 6s today. So I am worried and would prefer to spend less than more.

in such an event, the RWD is actually the better deal.

 

[BullitX]

thank you for your input and your time. I think what you are saying is 100% correct. All of this does not help the EV market in general. Imagine if this was the case for the 911 market. A fully loader 992 4s or 992 GTS would worth almost the same as a base and poorly equiped carrera 2. Nuts.

Keep in mind, much of the depreciation in electric vehicles is influenced by consumers themselves. Logically, an EV should depreciate less because it has fewer moving parts, less wear and tear, and, with proper battery care, it can last a very long time. However, many people are overly concerned about battery degradation, often fueled by misinformation and the fear of missing out (FOMO) when new technology is introduced. This FOMO affects every ICE car as well, so it’s not unique to EVs.

Additionally, due to this paranoia, people tend to assume that all EV batteries are the same. For example, if a KIA has a poor battery reputation, some might mistakenly think Porsche’s batteries are just as bad. Since EVs and their batteries are a new concept for many, there’s a general lack of awareness that not all batteries are created equal—just as not all ICE engines are the same. Some brands produce exceptionally durable engines, while others may break down within a year.

As people become more educated about these technical differences, depreciation will likely decrease. I believe car manufacturers and dealers should take a more active role in educating the public. However, let’s be realistic: many CEOs of car manufacturers have only a basic understanding of how EVs work beyond the fact that “it has a battery, you charge it, and then you drive around town.”

 

[whitex]

thank you for your input and your time. I think what you are saying is 100% correct. All of this does not help the EV market in general. Imagine if this was the case for the 911 market. A fully loader 992 4s or 992 GTS would worth almost the same as a base and poorly equiped carrera 2. Nuts.

After about 5 years a fully loaded 992 GTS will be worth almost the same as a poorly equipped 992 GTS, not a poorly equipped Carrera 2 of similar vintage. The difference in price will be the original difference between no-option GTS vs Carrera 2, but scaled down by depreciation (typically ~60% after 5 years). There are exceptions of course, for limited edition collector cars, as well as private sales to the one buyer who really just must have the option set of that one specific car, and is willing to pay premium for it. On the other hand, you'd be surprised how little even Porsche dealers selling used Porches know about their options - that's because most buyers are not fanatics like us on this site, so they don't really care to learn about them either. Heck, I've even seen customers being told they are a buying different color than they actually were, and most will just believe the salesman who was too lazy lookup the actual color of of the car, or because the customer wanted a specific color so the sales guy told them that is what the car was, even if it wasn't (I think I remember this happening to someone on this forum with a Taycan).

 

[brett_z]

4S for sure, the heads up more important than the sport chrono and imo the 4S more sought for resale. Both are great color combos i have the carrera white but if I didn’t, it would be the black with the gray. Good luck to you and enjoy whichever one you go with the Taycan is one of the most fun cars I’ve ever owned

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