Performance Battery worth $5k?

[Brazz]

Personal preference on what you like about the car... For me, in no specific order, but were factors:

• Styling and size (Panamera sized is a little too big)
• Porsche handing
• Power (I've owned other sports sedans and without the performance battery the car didn't feel fast enough...IMO)
• Range (not a huge factor, but important)

So, the performance battery was worth it for me.

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[JimBob]

Thank you! I am leaning against....not worried about resale. I plan to have for a long time. Thanks much for the guidance

If you own the car a long time, you should consider battery degradation which will reduce range and it WILL happen.

 

[fgwinn]

Is the lower capacity battery also 800 volt? If not, that may be a reason to order the PB+ version.

 

[soawjo]

Is the lower capacity battery also 800 volt? If not, that may be a reason to order the PB+ version.

Yeah, I saw a video (possibly posted by someone on here, i can't remember) that said the smaller battery was not 800V and operated at a lower voltage. I'm not sure this has ever been officially confirmed by Porsche though

 

[gnop1950]

Yeah, I saw a video (possibly posted by someone on here, i can't remember) that said the smaller battery was not 800V and operated at a lower voltage. I'm not sure this has ever been officially confirmed by Porsche though

The same 800V platform is used for both. A higher capacity is achieved by adding more cells (from the configurator). In addition to the bit of extra power, range and buffer, the resale value would be my major concern. From looking at the configurator only the Taycan (RWD) and the 4S have the smaller battery as standard. All of the other Taycans seem to have the PB+ as standard.

 

[JimBob]

Yeah, I saw a video (possibly posted by someone on here, i can't remember) that said the smaller battery was not 800V and operated at a lower voltage. I'm not sure this has ever been officially confirmed by Porsche though

Here is a link to the article with the spec sheet from Porsche that shows the PB battery as 600v.

https://electrek.co/2021/01/19/you-can-now-buy-a-porsche-taycan-in-the-us-for-under-80000/

 

[gnop1950]

Here is a link to the article with the spec sheet from Porsche that shows the PB battery as 600v.

https://electrek.co/2021/01/19/you-can-now-buy-a-porsche-taycan-in-the-us-for-under-80000/

That is the battery pack specification, not the platform architecture (800v). If you notice it lists the PB+ as 723V and the PB as 613V. The only difference is the number of battery cells, 336 cells for the PB, and 396 cells for the PB+.

 

[Fish Fingers]

Useful for comparison purposes...

 

[JimBob]

That is the battery pack specification, not the platform architecture (800v). If you notice it lists the PB+ as 723V and the PB as 613V. The only difference is the number of battery cells, 336 cells for the PB, and 396 cells for the PB+.

The point is that the battery packs are different between the two cars. And the differences come out as reduced power output, reduced range and reduced charging speeds and of course a reduced cost. I would bet most people think the PB battery is 800v and it isn't. If you want to say it's a 600v on an 800v platform fine, but you didn't. You talked about capacity not voltage. And the whole Taycan shtick is about 800v.

 

[smohr33]

For a 4S: 12.5% more power, 7.5% more power in overboost, 14% more range, 3% more weight, 5.3% more cost. Was a no brainer for me.

Battery + = 10.2 lb/HP, 8.8 lb/HP in overboost,
Regular Battery = 11.1 lb/HP, 9.1 lb/HP in overboost

I don't see how the battery + car couldn't be faster in real life, especially from a roll. I haven't seen real world performance results from a regular battery car. I've seen multiple battery + 4S run 11.7 at 120. Any regular battery owners with a draggy?

 

[gnop1950]

The point is that the battery packs are different between the two cars. And the differences come out as reduced power output, reduced range and reduced charging speeds and of course a reduced cost. I would bet most people think the PB battery is 800v and it isn't. If you want to say it's a 600v on an 800v platform fine, but you didn't. You talked about capacity not voltage. And the whole Taycan shtick is about 800v.

Of course, there is a difference in the available power when you have more battery cells. Maybe I'm missing your point. The comment I was responding to seemed to think that one was built on a 600V architecture versus an 800V architecture. Both are built on the same underlying architecture.

If all they were reiterating is that one battery is bigger than the other then I misunderstood the comment. It should go without saying that if you add more cells to the same platform you have more power, range, and buffer. My point was that the platform (800v) is the same and the difference between the two packs is the number of battery cells.

Since there are only two models (RWD & 4S Sedans) that even have the smaller battery as standard it wouldn't surprise me if they upped the price a bit and just made the PB+ standard across all of the Taycans.

P.S. I wonder if the PB can be easily upgraded to at PB+ by adding more cells after delivery? Just curiosity since it would no doubt not be cost-effective.

 

[JimBob]

Sorry, I was a little cranky this morning. The point is that Porsche doesn't advertise this. The guy who found the table told me, he had to do quite a bit of digging to find it. I think Porsche is quite content to not disclose their PB battery is actually 600v and not 800v.

 

[Kingske]

Worth it: range, horsepower, resale value, peace of mind

 

[XLR82XS]

Worth it: range, horsepower, resale value, peace of mind

100%

 

[gnop1950]

Of course, there is a difference in the available power when you have more battery cells. Maybe I'm missing your point. The comment I was responding to seemed to think that one was built on a 600V architecture versus an 800V architecture. Both are built on the same underlying architecture.

If all they were reiterating is that one battery is bigger than the other then I misunderstood the comment. It should go without saying that if you add more cells to the same platform you have more power, range, and buffer. My point was that the platform (800v) is the same and the difference between the two packs is the number of battery cells.

Since there are only two models (RWD & 4S Sedans) that even have the smaller battery as standard it wouldn't surprise me if they upped the price a bit and just made the PB+ standard across all of the Taycans.

Sorry, I was a little cranky this morning. The point is that Porsche doesn't advertise this. The guy who found the table told me, he had to do quite a bit of digging to find it. I think Porsche is quite content to not disclose their PB battery is actually 600v and not 800v.

No worries. It is easy to conflate the platform architecture 800V, with the actual battery capacity, and they probably thought the real numbers would just be confusing to most consumers. I mean the capacity of the PB+ is still not 800v. The people on this forum are not, in a good way, most consumers

For the OP the power, range, buffer, and possible resale considerations are really all that matter for their decision and I think they've decided those don't matter and they'd prefer saving the $5k.

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