Tesla FSD Safety Stats Misleading

[69Mach390]

My feelings towards Elon do not in any way affect my judgement of the product. I still recommend Model Y to people as a great choice for an EV for example, as long as you buy it only for what is available and functional on delivery day, and understand the way Tesla makes their statements, like my example of Tesla specifying "Max motor power" but omitting the fact that it's nowhere near achievable in the car they sell it in, but technically that motor could in fact generate this much power in some other car with a better battery, or like when Tesla promised Full Self Driving shuttling family and friends for free, and making money when owner doesn't need the car while driving for Tesla Ride Sharing Network - all that for cars sold in 2016, which are now a decade old, are you still a believer Tesla will enable all (or any) of those cars with Level 4 FSD for free?

Unfortunately this is just a throwaway argument that Tesla supporters sometimes make.

You said absolutely nothing about Musk, and their response is somehow that you “must hate Elon.”

Dislike of how a product is used
Dislike of a product feature
Dislike of a product
Dislike of a company
Dislike of a CEO’s decisions or actions
Dislike of a CEO’s opinion
Dislike of a CEO

This entire list can be mutually exclusive. And literally the only thing we are discussing is the top two. You can’t just assume if someone feels a way about the top two that the rest of the list is true.

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[FlyingPoint]

Drive the FSD car for a few thousnd miles, then opine!

 

[69Mach390]

Drive the FSD car for a few thousnd miles, then opine!

Another fallacy.

It’s pretty easy to form opinions from others experiences. Heroin enters the argument…..

 

[whitex]

Drive the FSD car for a few thousnd miles, then opine!

My point is the better it gets, the more dangerous it gets until it hits true Level 4 (in case help from driver is needed, car safely pulls over, wakes the driver sleeping on the back seat for help). How would driving on FSD change that? You think as FSD drivers better and better I would trust it less and less and therefore pay more attention???

 

[FlyingPoint]

My point is the better it gets, the more dangerous it gets until it hits true Level 4 (in case help from driver is needed, car safely pulls over, wakes the driver sleeping on the back seat for help). How would driving on FSD change that? You think as FSD drivers better and better I would trust it less and less and therefore pay more attention???

In one of the last updates, FSD now does the following:
if a driver is incapaciated or not attentive or asleep in the back seat --hazard flashers activate, cars slows and pullsover to the shoulder of the road and stops. I believe it will also make an emergecy call. Tesla has not publized this because it is still level 2 and cannot be relied upon in a medical emergecy. Tesla is known to not fully publize what its updates change.

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