What does delivery term 'Allocation' mean?

[smoothound]

In the arcane Porsche delivery process terminology .....

What does 'Allocation' mean (as asigned to a month) - and how does that differ from 'Build' month.

So for example, what does 'Allocation in July' mean in terms of anticipated build month?

Prolly one for a friendly dealer or more experienced customer

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[B61]

AFAIK, allocation means that a dealer has a "ticket", a slot for a car, while build date is planned start of production.
In other words... a dealer has allocation for Taycan and configuration might be still changed (based on end customer needs) until freeze date.

 

[WuffvonTrips]

I'll leave it to the experts to give a succinct definition, but if you have the time to watch it, I recommend this (Canadian) dealership's Vlog that defines Allocation wthin the context of explaining the entire end-to-end process-

 

[smoothound]

I'll leave it to the experts to give a succinct definition, but if you have the time to watch it, I recommend this (Canadian) dealership's Vlog that defines Allocation wthin the context of explaining the entire end-to-end process-

thanks - this is very helpful!

 

[WuffvonTrips]

thanks - this is very helpful!

You're welcome- as it happens, I'm currently watching another of his vids "Which Porsche Options are Best for Resale?" I like his style, he's very listenable (though would have benefited from recording at higher audio gain).

 

[smoothound]

AFAIK, allocation means that a dealer has a "ticket", a slot for a car, while build date is planned start of production.
In other words... a dealer has allocation for Taycan and configuration might be still changed (based on end customer needs) until freeze date.

Thanks B,... sorry to be dense, but AFAYK.....

Could it be possible for a dealer to have a July 'Allocation', but ask to have this built in September? To be specific, could an Allocation in July 22 (MY22), be planned as an MY23 car to be built in September?

Or is a July 'Allocation' always built in July?

in the video - the Canadian guys says an allocation is built in the month of allocation.. My dealer is telling me that my July22 'Allocation' will be built later and will be an MY23 car. Has he the power to do that? or will the factory just build it in July?

 

[B61]

I don't know about your case, about your dealer.... I was just trying to answer.
In my case, dealer had allocation since March (for production in May), I signed in April .. car went to production in July..., got it in September... and I'm not the only one with such story...

 

[smoothound]

I don't know about your case, about your dealer.... I was just trying to answer.
In my case, dealer had allocation since March (for production in May), I signed in April .. car went to production in July..., got it in September... and I'm not the only one with such story...

Thanks B - Your example indicates that my dealer is telling me the truth....

My July 22 allocation could be a later build and hence would be an MY23 car (which is the only condition that I stipulated - I want an MY23 car).

I feel more confident that what I am being told is plausible.

Many thanks

 

[B61]

You are welcome... btw: I've been also told, that production of new model year usually starts after summer holidays (end of August), so it's quite possible that you'll get MY23.
Good luck... it will be looong year

 

[whitex]

Thanks B,... sorry to be dense, but AFAYK.....

Could it be possible for a dealer to have a July 'Allocation', but ask to have this built in September? To be specific, could an Allocation in July 22 (MY22), be planned as an MY23 car to be built in September?

Or is a July 'Allocation' always built in July?

in the video - the Canadian guys says an allocation is built in the month of allocation.. My dealer is telling me that my July22 'Allocation' will be built later and will be an MY23 car. Has he the power to do that? or will the factory just build it in July?

Are they allowing you to lock the price today, or can the price change (and you can change your mind of course) in July?

 

[smoothound]

Are they allowing you to lock the price today, or can the price change (and you can change your mind of course) in July?

Haven't got that far yet W, but in discussion it's clear that I have to accept any price increase. Which is expected TBH.

I am expecting a relatively high price hike - because how increasing EU/UK inflation - especially in raw materials.

We won't lock-out the spec until Feb-March ish - That's a bit earlier than usual because I have specified Custom Paint.

 

[E200602]

As simply put as I can, here's the ordering process;

- Deposit/Signed Order, then there's two scenarios:​

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Scenario number 1: Your order is loaded onto the Porsche main system, which is the link to the factory (handling board) into an "empty" build slot which is rare. For example, your centre has one spare allocation in July (free build slot) then the car is built in that allocation month, in this case July, for delivery in August, all being well.​

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Most common scenario is number 2: Your order is loaded on as what's called an "order demand" this is when you're waiting for your "allocation". The order demand is how Porsche monitor and manage their supply against the market demand.​

So, if a centre takes x amount of order demands for the Taycan 4S, they would then receive x amount of allocation/slots from the brand during the course of that year to place those order demands into, feeding the supply as the demand dictates.​

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An example of scenario 2: You place your order in January 2021, your lead time is quoted by the centre as Q4 2021, as they will know how many orders they already have in the system that are still waiting for allocation before your order was placed. These people are ahead of you in the queue.​

This is why your wait time is dependant on how many orders have been taken by that centre, explaining why lead times can vary between sites!​

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[smoothound]

As simply put as I can, here's the ordering process;

- Deposit/Signed Order, then there's two scenarios:​

​

Scenario number 1: Your order is loaded onto the Porsche main system, which is the link to the factory (handling board) into an "empty" build slot which is rare. For example, your centre has one spare allocation in July (free build slot) then the car is built in that allocation month, in this case July, for delivery in August, all being well.​

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Most common scenario is number 2: Your order is loaded on as what's called an "order demand" this is when you're waiting for your "allocation". The order demand is how Porsche monitor and manage their supply against the market demand.​

So, if a centre takes x amount of order demands for the Taycan 4S, they would then receive x amount of allocation/slots from the brand during the course of that year to place those order demands into, feeding the supply as the demand dictates.​

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An example of scenario 2: You place your order in January 2021, your lead time is quoted by the centre as Q4 2021, as they will know how many orders they already have in the system that are still waiting for allocation before your order was placed. These people are ahead of you in the queue.​

This is why your wait time is dependant on how many orders have been taken by that centre, explaining why lead times can vary between sites!​

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Thanks E, this is how I understood it too....

My dealer said (I paraphrase) ... 'Your slot is July'. So I challenged that along the lines of - but that will be an MY22 - and I wanted MY23

He clarified along the lines of .... Your 'allocation slot' (specific phrase) is July22 not your build slot - Your build will be later in Q3 likely to be in September - So it will definitely be an MY23.

In the conversation he repeated this differentiation between allocation and build slots more than once.

This seems to be a combination of both your scenarios - so it deffo sounded off to me.

I wonder if what he meant was - they would receive the dealer allocation in July - and would determine the build slot from that?

cheers

 

[E200602]

Thanks E, this is how I understood it too....

My dealer said (I paraphrase) ... 'Your slot is July'. So I challenged that along the lines of - but that will be an MY22 - and I wanted MY23

He clarified along the lines of .... Your 'allocation slot' (specific phrase) is July22 not your build slot - Your build will be later in Q3 likely to be in September - So it will definitely be an MY23.

In the conversation he repeated this differentiation between allocation and build slots more than once.

This seems to be a combination of both your scenarios - so it deffo sounded off to me.

I wonder if what he meant was - they would receive the dealer allocation in July - and would determine the build slot from that?

cheers

OK so when a dealer submits an "order demand" they can choose a month based on customer preference, so you can tell the Porsche system that this customer would like their car ideally in July 2022, so they put your order demand into that month. Of course this is not guaranteed, hence his use of "likely" to be build in September.

I would say that he has submitted your order demand request into the month of July, which means you haven't got a build slot yet. On that basis I would say that it's likely this car will be MY23 based on not having a built slot/proper allocation yet. He's just using the terminology incorrectly leading to un-necessary confusion.

 

[smoothound]

OK so when a dealer submits an "order demand" they can choose a month based on customer preference, so you can tell the Porsche system that this customer would like their car ideally in July 2022, so they put your order demand into that month. Of course this is not guaranteed, hence his use of "likely" to be build in September.

I would say that he has submitted your order demand request into the month of July, which means you haven't got a build slot yet. On that basis I would say that it's likely this car will be MY23 based on not having a built slot/proper allocation yet. He's just using the terminology incorrectly leading to un-necessary confusion.

Thanks E -That makes sense - and fits exactly what I think he was trying to say..

I must admit he did not sound 100% au-fait with the process when I asked for clarification (of what did not make sense to me).

much appreciated - it's been nagging me for a few days

cheers

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