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The final numbers shown on the car's display are 367.5 miles and 3.8 miles per kWh.
With the 97kWh usable battery capacity that works out at 3.79 miles per kWh- I'm not used to seeing such a good match from the Taycan.
Interestingly, it appears to have Turbo Aero wheels, which in the configurator are only offered with winter tyres.
 
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The final numbers shown on the car's display are 367.5 miles and 3.8 miles per kWh.
With the 97kWh usable battery capacity that works out at 3.79 miles per kWh- I'm not used to seeing such a good match from the Taycan.
Interestingly, it appears to have Turbo Aero wheels, which in the configurator are only offered with winter tyres.
Yeah I was pretty surprised to be honest.

not sure it’s worth the outlay as I have a GTS which gets 300 ish in good weather and I’m not a long distance commuter so a stop for food and a toilet break for me and a 5 year old doesn’t hurt.
 

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I think it’s what @winge said a few months ago …. Pretty much range enticed because of larger battery … despite awaiting delivery in a few weeks of my third Taycan (since July 2020) I’m a bit underwhelmed by all the “wow” publicity from Porsche about the engineering linked to Gen2 range enhancement! (but lets see what my personal driving experience is like thru Aug - Dec 2024)
 

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I think it’s what @winge said a few months ago …. Pretty much range enticed because of larger battery … despite awaiting delivery in a few weeks of my third Taycan (since July 2020) I’m a bit underwhelmed by all the “wow” publicity from Porsche about the engineering linked to Gen2 range enhancement! (but lets see what my personal driving experience is like thru Aug - Dec 2024)
EDIT- I'd forgotten that my average below came from the total of all trips stated in the MyPorsche app- which seriously overstates the real economy which was only 2.74 when I calculated it myself from all the individual trip data.
Just checked my average in my 2yo Turbo CT- 3.15 2.74 mls/kWh. I don't recall comparable numbers for a RWD, but I reckon the Carwow range test is indicative of a 10-15% efficiency improvement- a nice-to-have, though not enough to prematurely switch from earlier MYs. The most impressive improvement for me for a MY25 Turbo is in power/performance, though realistically I have little enough opportunity to fully exploit the original Turbo performance.
 
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Yeah I watched this and was surprised the Porsche held its own. It was even stating 4.0mpkwh at some points. Impressive. Mind you as has been said above; the J2 is a face lift I'm certainly not thinking of changing for a few extra miles. I have had mine 3 months now and have never charged away from home.....
 

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Yeah, it's all in the battery size. If all the cars were as efficient as the Tesla the ranges would be:

ModelBattery KWHEnergy Consumption KWHActual Range Reported (miles)Range With Tesla Like Efficiency (miles)
Taycan PB+973.8368455
Tesla Model 3 Long Range754.7352352
BMW I5 M Sport Pro813.7296.3380
BYD Seal82.53.8310387
Polestar 2 Long Range794.2332371
Mercedes EQE 300894.0357418

Porsche's solution (and Mercedes') to increased range is brute force. Just increase the battery size.
 

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Yeah, it's all in the battery size. If all the cars were as efficient as the Tesla the ranges would be:

ModelBattery KWHEnergy Consumption KWHActual Range Reported (miles)Range With Tesla Like Efficiency (miles)
Taycan PB+973.8368455
Tesla Model 3 Long Range754.7352352
BMW I5 M Sport Pro813.7296.3380
BYD Seal82.53.8310387
Polestar 2 Long Range794.2332371
Mercedes EQE 300894.0357418

Porsche's solution (and Mercedes') to increased range is brute force. Just increase the battery size.
The Porsche is a sports car, so has larger more grippy tyres which will eat KWh. you could put skinny trees on to increase the range but I prefer having the performance.
 


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Yeah, it's all in the battery size. If all the cars were as efficient as the Tesla the ranges would be:

ModelBattery KWHEnergy Consumption KWHActual Range Reported (miles)Range With Tesla Like Efficiency (miles)
Taycan PB+973.8368455
Tesla Model 3 Long Range754.7352352
BMW I5 M Sport Pro813.7296.3380
BYD Seal82.53.8310387
Polestar 2 Long Range794.2332371
Mercedes EQE 300894.0357418

Porsche's solution (and Mercedes') to increased range is brute force. Just increase the battery size.
Lol. As if efficiency does not depend on the battery size, represented here either by weight or dimensions (and often both).
 

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As if efficiency does not depend on the battery size,
Of course it doesn't. By the time it went through this test it had gone through the battery, motors, drive train, drag, rolling resistance plus other stuff. The numbers are what the numbers are.
 

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Of course it doesn't. By the time it went through this test it had gone through the battery, motors, drive train, drag, rolling resistance plus other stuff. The numbers are what the numbers are.
I think you're missing the point. You can't extrapolate Tesla's efficiency at a given mass/battery capacity to a different car not built on the same premise - with, you know, an interior, different handling and/or aesthetic characteristics. Increasing the battery capacity isn't "brute forcing" - that increase adds more mass, which further impacts efficiency/limits the gains in range. If Tesla made a car with (pick a number from your table)-kWh battery and achieved your calculated range, that would be worth mentioning.
 
 




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