My 3rd Taycan... is a Cross Turismo

[Raphie]

So, on a standard 4s can the disks be upgraded for PSCB? When the car is washed or air is humid they rust. Or do I then also need new calipers?

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[Skilly]

I live in Belgium, but do a lot of


kilometres in Germany.


There as you surely know there are parts of the autostrade with no speed limit.


Then you really feel the difference.


That is also the comment of most journalists.


When I drive a light sports car,I always have to adjust the first few kilometres and always brake too fast.

Porsche can explain this better than a loyal customer :

https://www.porsche.com/internation...gazine/archive/384/articleoverview/article03/

I've fallen into this trap as well.

What this article doesn't account for is the regen capabilities in the Taycan config. Unless you are pulling upwards of a .5G stop, the regen is doing the work NOT the braking (aside from slow moves and complete stops of course). There really isn't normal driving that requires this, even on that famous highway, short of an emergency slow down.

Being very familiar with 1 pedal driving and how regen works there, I couldn't wrap my head around it to be honest. Unless you are putting your Taycan through paces that exceed that G threshold, you aren't using them like you think you are. A good tell to determine this is if your discs look like mirrors...literally. If they don't, that is regen you are feeling.

Porsche did this better than ANY other car out there on the market. Fun fact, it also has better regen than any other car on the market.

 

[B61]

Which of these improvements (apart from brakes, which are off topic) are not available on MY 2020 with the uPdate applied? Until the end of December, Porsche was providing the uPdate to MY 2020 for free, but they withdrew the uPDate a few weeks ago, reportedly because a small number of MY 2020 Taycans became "bricked" after return to the customer.

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/software-update-cancelled.14177/​

Afaik, all of them are part of uPdate.

 

[Archimedes]

Porsche can explain this better than a loyal customer :

https://www.porsche.com/internation...gazine/archive/384/articleoverview/article03/

That’s on a vehicle that actually engages the discs from the jump. The Taycan does not. Do you understand how the Taycan achieves its braking force?

PSCBs and PCCBs are 95% eye candy on the Taycan.

 

[Archimedes]

So, on a standard 4s can the disks be upgraded for PSCB? When the car is washed or air is humid they rust. Or do I then also need new calipers?

You would need discs and calipers at a minimum. And possibly other components, plus recalibration. I thought about swapping for PCCBs on my ‘16 Spyder and the parts list was long and not cheap.

 

[MT-1]

I've fallen into this trap as well.

What this article doesn't account for is the regen capabilities in the Taycan config. Unless you are pulling upwards of a .5G stop, the regen is doing the work NOT the braking (aside from slow moves and complete stops of course). There really isn't normal driving that requires this, even on that famous highway, short of an emergency slow down.

Being very familiar with 1 pedal driving and how regen works there, I couldn't wrap my head around it to be honest. Unless you are putting your Taycan through paces that exceed that G threshold, you aren't using them like you think you are. A good tell to determine this is if your discs look like mirrors...literally. If they don't, that is regen you are feeling.

Porsche did this better than ANY other car out there on the market. Fun fact, it also has better regen than any other car on the market.

I’m intrigued by this comment:

How many times have you had to use emergency braking where you thought the standard brakes would not have coped? Do Porsche quote any difference in stopping distances between the different brake options?

With 90% of braking being done by the physical brakes, I’m keen to understand why you think these are a ‘must have’?

I thought the main advantage of PSCB was lack of brake dust (and appearance, which is subjective) although as above that’s not such a big issue when the physical brakes aren’t used that much.
For PCCBs, lack of brake fade is probably the biggest advantage, but that should really only be relevant for track use.

So Porsche must really look at me as a customer like an idiot and charge a lot of money for a nice colouring of the calipers.


Doesn't feel good.

 

[MT-1]

That’s on a vehicle that actually engages the discs from the jump. The Taycan does not. Do you understand how the Taycan achieves its braking force?

PSCBs and PCCBs are 95% eye candy on the Taycan.

So Porsche must really look at me as a customer like an idiot and charge a lot of money for a nice colouring of the calipers.


Doesn't feel good.

 

[MT-1]

I've fallen into this trap as well.

What this article doesn't account for is the regen capabilities in the Taycan config. Unless you are pulling upwards of a .5G stop, the regen is doing the work NOT the braking (aside from slow moves and complete stops of course). There really isn't normal driving that requires this, even on that famous highway, short of an emergency slow down.

Being very familiar with 1 pedal driving and how regen works there, I couldn't wrap my head around it to be honest. Unless you are putting your Taycan through paces that exceed that G threshold, you aren't using them like you think you are. A good tell to determine this is if your discs look like mirrors...literally. If they don't, that is regen you are feeling.

Porsche did this better than ANY other car out there on the market. Fun fact, it also has better regen than any other car on the market.

 

[MT-1]

So Porsche must really look at me as a customer like an idiot and charge a lot of money for a nice colouring of the calipers.


Doesn't feel good.

 

[MT-1]

You would need discs and calipers at a minimum. And possibly other components, plus recalibration. I thought about swapping for PCCBs on my ‘16 Spyder and the parts list was long and not cheap.

 

[MT-1]

So Porsche must really look at me as a customer like an idiot and charge a lot of money for a nice colouring of the calipers.


Doesn't feel good.

 

[MT-1]

That’s on a vehicle that actually engages the discs from the jump. The Taycan does not. Do you understand how the Taycan achieves its braking force?

PSCBs and PCCBs are 95% eye candy on the Taycan.

 

[MT-1]

So Porsche must really look at me as a customer like an idiot and charge a lot of money for a nice colouring of the calipers.


Doesn't feel good.

 

[Sidicks]

So Porsche must really look at me as a customer like an idiot and charge a lot of money for a nice colouring of the calipers.


Doesn't feel good.

You get the other benefits that have been mentioned - longer life, reduced fade, no rust, minimal brake dust, white callipers, shiny disks etc.

However, given the amount the discs are actually used, that doesn’t really justify it as a ‘must have’ in my view.

It’s your money, spend it as you like - I’ve paid for black callipers on mine with purely aesthetic benefits!

 

[Skilly]

So Porsche must really look at me as a customer like an idiot and charge a lot of money for a nice colouring of the calipers.


Doesn't feel good.

Id just consider it a teachable moment (that's what I did) - if you have the Turbo, congrats you got em without being out of pocket! The idea that they should now last you the natural life of the car is pretty cool.

In your defense, the regen braking feels EXACTLY like brakes being applied. It truly is an engineering marvel. I would take this experience over 1 pedal driving EVERY SINGLE TIME. Porsche crushed it with this innovation.

check out this description and link to further explanation:

"Now here’s where things get interesting. When you depress the brake pedal, it doesn’t mean that the conventional brakes will be stopping the car. The car determines how hard you want to brake by measuring how hard you are pressing the pedal. Slightly slowing down? The car will determine that the motors can both slow the car down and charge the batteries. A dog runs out in front of you? Then the system will use the electric motors to their limit to slow the car down and, if that is not enough, it will engage the traditional brakes to help out. This is why you’ll be replacing brake pads a lot less in EVs. It sounds complicated and it really is, but it’s also an intelligent system that maximizing braking and energy recovery."

https://www.pca.org/news/how-exactly-does-regenerative-braking-work-pca-tech-tips#:~:text=The Taycan gets up to,generates a maximum of 77kW.

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