Best electricity tariff for EV switching today

[Ross]

Hi- just to balance a couple of points, I’ve posted a lot of queries and questions on my move to Ovo that may have given the impression of IMMENSE faff, but that’s just my nature. Took about a week to get going, I was just impatient and am still getting head around the crediting currently but move overall was easy and the gains are far from marginal if on 45p/ 12.5p for 4 hours which I was with octopus. My house cains electric on day rate due to air source heat pump and under floor heating so 25% reduction is this is massive. Also 12.5p for 4 hours meant also charging my car at 45p a unit. Overall considerable savings to be had. Obviously on your locked in rate maybe not so much so depending on usage. Taycan wasn’t compatible for intelligent without specific charger that I don’t have so no other options with octopus.

Fair point!?
I have appreciated your forensic analysis of OVO!
With your usage I would accept an ENORMOUS amount of faff to get onto OVO. I had a large modern house with Air Source Heat Pump for 2 years 2011-2013. (No Gas)
Bills were <£1500 a year and toasty warm.
I bet it’s more now.
I now live in a large old Victorian Semi with the insulation properties of the Psycho House.
Air Source wouldn’t cut it so it’s been £20 a day of Pootins Gas over winter.
Water also gas heated.

I use 6kw electricity daytime in summer. 10 in winter. +2 on Sunday if cooking enormous Sunday Roast feast.
I am the perfect match for Octopus Go or Intelligent.
Thursday 20th a good example.

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[bertcondiment]

Ok so this Is probably a stupid question for a newly transitioned EV and taycan owner…. What’s the benefit of fitting a 3rd party charge unit vs using the Porsche mobile charge with an ev tarriff? (Apart from Charging speed?)

 

[Ross]

None.
The only reason is speed.
Porsche mobile charger though 3 pin plug less than 2kw charge per hour.
To have the Porsche own brand hardware for 6.8 kw per hour costs a small fortune. £2000?
A different brand charger such as PodPoint for 6.8kw speed is less than £500

 

[bertcondiment]

Thx

But I believe you can install a 32a circuit for the 6/7kw charger…. Been quoted just a couple of hundred quid for that vs adding the charger too…. Eg…

https://andersen-ev.com/pages/porsche-order-7kw

(although have had a quote to do same for half this price)

as the mobile charger came with the car.

 

[Shigura]

Thx

But I believe you can install a 32a circuit for the 6/7kw charger…. Been quoted just a couple of hundred quid for that vs adding the charger too…. Eg…

https://andersen-ev.com/pages/porsche-order-7kw

(although have had a quote to do same for half this price)

as the mobile charger came with the car.

Yes, I installed a 32kw outlet at another address that I use and have found that the car charges at about the same speed as with my home Hypervolt charger ( approx 7kw/h)

 

[Speuk]

None.
The only reason is speed.
Porsche mobile charger though 3 pin plug less than 2kw charge per hour.
To have the Porsche own brand hardware for 6.8 kw per hour costs a small fortune. £2000?
A different brand charger such as PodPoint for 6.8kw speed is less than £500

No not £2k.....The Porsche Mobile Charger comes with a wall bracket and two supply leads 1 x 32amp commando plug and the other 13 amp domestic plug.
I had two 32A Switched Commando Sockets installed, one either side of my double garage and positioned about 1.5m from the garage doors so I can charge on the drive or in the garage. These were fed from a new Fusebox brand garage distribution box with a surge protection device and each circuit protected with an RCBO Type A. Single pole is ok with the PMC+ but I would fit double pole in case you ever change the evse for one without double pole trip isolation. Cost me £500 Inc vat.

 

[Fish Fingers]

I had a strong feeling Octopus would react to OVO and the market overall.
My 34p/7.5p rates are locked until July.
I knew something would shift before then.
The IMMENSE faff reported here about moving to OVO for marginal gains meant I would have probably stayed with Octopus at 45/12.5 anyway.
Now it’s guaranteed.
What is Octopus Intelligent going to?
Then you get 6 hours if you do the Car registration thing?

I am in the same boat. Same Octopus rate and renews in August.
Not fancying the faff of moving to OVO from what I've read here.
I also really like Octopus as a firm (we get involved on the other side - VCT etc).

I am expecting rates to drop significantly across the board when the price cap is next reviewed in July.

 

[Nickj]

I am in the same boat. Same Octopus rate and renews in August.
Not fancying the faff of moving to OVO from what I've read here.
I also really like Octopus as a firm (we get involved on the other side - VCT etc).

I am expecting rates to drop significantly across the board when the price cap is next reviewed in July.

I’ve had 2 really good years with octopus at 5p/ 14p, good customer service, good App, like how they present themself as a company and latterly saved a few quid doing their saving sessions, but the shift to 12.5p/ 45p was too much. I think they could have done more here eg 12.5p / 35p or similar and have took their ev base for-granted to a degree.

Ovo anytine if you charge your ev alot which I do is a no brainier for me currently. I used to always be trying to charge in the 4 hour window and give myself battery anxiety! Now I just fill her up regardless of time of day or amount. Of course it’s all subjective depending on use. OVO anytime has no contract so for what is a basic switch makes sense and if a more competitive offer comes back from octopus I may switch back but it will need to be a longer cheaper window to compare to the current convenience of charge as much as I want at anytime on the cheap rate.

 

[Nickj]

Does anyone know if on OVO anytime you can charge 2 ( or more!) cars? Eg maybe set up to AT accounts and link both to the standard account? Neighbours considering switch but has a Porsche CT, Lotus Electre R on the way and also running a Ioniq 5 for one of his company cars that tends to charge at his sometimes?

 

[kurand]

Has anyone found a way to use ChargeAnytime to charge a Taycan and reliably get the correct rebate calculated? I'm always getting short changed.

For example, on Saturday, I plugged my EVSE into the car and let it do its ChargeAnytime thing. Even though it was 13:30 when plugged in, ChargeAnytime decided to immediately charge the car to my designated SoC. OK, I guess the grid is not busy Saturday afternoons. The EVSE delivered 12.5KWh but the ChargeAnythime app only recognised 4.3KWh on which to calculate the rebate. Thats close to 1/3 of what it should be.

Further, I have noticed some somewhat spurious charging activity. With all of my previous EVs, I've always parked up and plugged in no matter what the SoC. Its just a habit to ensure an expected SoC. Now that I have my EVSE (S&P Home7Pus) moved into the garage, I've started to leave the Taycan plugged in. I have noticed some strange changing activity even after the designated SoC is reached. Here is an example

Car was parked sometime during 17-Apr daytime. ChargeAnytime decided to charge the car at 21:30; paused between 01:04 and 03:02 and then completed the charge by 05:02. This is expected behaviour to make it ready by 08:00 on 18-Apr as per my schedule.

However, what is the brief charge at 01:54 on 19-Apr and the 1.1KWh delivered at 21:48 on 19-Apr?

Have other folks noticed this kind of behaviour with ChargeAnytime? Or maybe it is a problem with my Taycan or EVSE. Needless to says, ChargeAnytime did not calculate a rebate on the 1.1KWh.

I guess I'll not be leaving the car plugged in when parked up.

 

[Nickj]

Has anyone found a way to use ChargeAnytime to charge a Taycan and reliably get the correct rebate calculated? I'm always getting short changed.

For example, on Saturday, I plugged my EVSE into the car and let it do its ChargeAnytime thing. Even though it was 13:30 when plugged in, ChargeAnytime decided to immediately charge the car to my designated SoC. OK, I guess the grid is not busy Saturday afternoons. The EVSE delivered 12.5KWh but the ChargeAnythime app only recognised 4.3KWh on which to calculate the rebate. Thats close to 1/3 of what it should be.

Further, I have noticed some somewhat spurious charging activity. With all of my previous EVs, I've always parked up and plugged in no matter what the SoC. Its just a habit to ensure an expected SoC. Now that I have my EVSE (S&P Home7Pus) moved into the garage, I've started to leave the Taycan plugged in. I have noticed some strange changing activity even after the designated SoC is reached. Here is an example

Car was parked sometime during 17-Apr daytime. ChargeAnytime decided to charge the car at 21:30; paused between 01:04 and 03:02 and then completed the charge by 05:02. This is expected behaviour to make it ready by 08:00 on 18-Apr as per my schedule.

However, what is the brief charge at 01:54 on 19-Apr and the 1.1KWh delivered at 21:48 on 19-Apr?

Have other folks noticed this kind of behaviour with ChargeAnytime? Or maybe it is a problem with my Taycan or EVSE. Needless to says, ChargeAnytime did not calculate a rebate on the 1.1KWh.

I guess I'll not be leaving the car plugged in when parked up.

I don’t have accessible detail of when it’s being charged currently so can’t comment. Surely it can’t add kws when it likes and if it did you should get credit for it surely?

You have checked your minimum SOC on the app and it’s not below this and charging straight away at peak rate?

My confusion remains the credit back is short and I seem to be paying 11.5p a kw. Credit seem to be 22.38 against of a unit cost of 33.97 inc vat meaning actual charge is 11.59 per kWh. Not had a chance to speak to them to query yet. It also seems to suggest it adds more kw than I think the battery would take, and my pod point says less so this is also a bit confusing!

 

[kurand]

Min state of charge is set to 10% in the app and it charges to 90% currently. On that particular charge, SoC was 76% when plugged in and finished at 90% as expected. Those extra peaks took the car to 91% and no rebate on the extra 1%.

I did email the OVO EV support line asking about the rebates not being calculated on the full power delivered, but have not heard back in 3 business days. I’ll phone them about it soon.

 

[Nickj]

So, OVO anytime q? Just realised cars been charging for last 2 hours, since I plugged it in when it doesn’t normally. Can’t get Porsche app to connect and nothing’s updating on the CA app. Does this mean the Porsche server is down and I’ve been charging at expensive day rate? Just unplugged it, as don’t need the extra charge now if not at cheap rate!

 

[Speuk]

So, OVO anytime q? Just realised cars been charging for last 2 hours, since I plugged it in when it doesn’t normally. Can’t get Porsche app to connect and nothing’s updating on the CA app. Does this mean the Porsche server is down and I’ve been charging at expensive day rate? Just unplugged it, as don’t need the extra charge now if not at cheap rate!

Hi Nick,

Mine is OK. Check the LTE connection in the car. I've been having problems with my car losing connectivity for the last few weeks. It only came back on yesterday after 6 days without connectivity and therefore no app or charge anytime

 

[Nickj]

Hi Nick,

Mine is OK. Check the LTE connection in the car. I've been having problems with my car losing connectivity for the last few weeks. It only came back on yesterday after 6 days without connectivity and therefore no app or charge anytime

oh, that sounds super annoying! Is it a car issue or Porsche issue?

just looked at mine. Not sure what I should have but LTE I think is normally in corner and looks to be missing? Is there anything I can do to rectify?

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