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Because it can't be sustained, it's easier to control by switching it on for brief bursts when it'll give the most benefit (e.g. specific sections of the track) and the driver knows what power response they'll get.
Same is true if you simply enable boost when you the accelerator hits the floor, or approaches it fast enough. See how Audi or Tesla did that, they limit the overboost duration but it's triggered by the accelerator, not some dedicated button.
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Same is true if you simply enable boost when you the accelerator hits the floor, or approaches it fast enough. See how Audi or Tesla did that, they limit the overboost duration but it's triggered by the accelerator, not some dedicated button.
That might suit some drivers for road use, but on a track, I don't think it'd help optimum lap times if most of the time the driver has to accurately push and hold the accelerator to just below whatever threshold percentage is required to get maximum power without triggering overboost. Even on the road, I don't like the idea of having to check instrumentation to know how much power I'm going to get and for how long, particularly when concentrating on overtaking.
 

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who from forum already did a so called touristenfahrt on the nuerburgring with own taycan? I have to plan it this year! Exciting to watch this video, is there an longer version available which shows the complete round? Driver says they smashed a lot of rounds with similiar lap time, how much exactly?

Are there information how many kw/h they have on such laps? Iam courious how many laps they have taken before re-charge the battery again. Hope there will be an interview of this with more informations about.
 

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That might suit some drivers for road use, but on a track, I don't think it'd help optimum lap times if most of the time the driver has to accurately push and hold the accelerator to just below whatever threshold percentage is required to get maximum power without triggering overboost. Even on the road, I don't like the idea of having to check instrumentation to know how much power I'm going to get and for how long, particularly when concentrating on overtaking.
If the accelerator hits the floor the driver wants more power. Overboost should not be absolute time limited, but usage limited. If it can provide an extra 100KW for 8 seconds, it should provide extra 50KW to 16 seconds. or 80 seconds of 10KW boost. Porsche could adapt the throttle mapping to available power. In the video, the paddle might not have disengaged the boost directly, but possibly kicked in some regen for a second which would have cancelled the overboost. The time remaining should be assuming current throttle level, so technically it could go up if you're letting off the throttle but still within overboost range.
 

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If the accelerator hits the floor the driver wants more power. Overboost should not be absolute time limited, but usage limited. If it can provide an extra 100KW for 8 seconds, it should provide extra 50KW to 16 seconds. or 80 seconds of 10KW boost. Porsche could adapt the throttle mapping to available power. In the video, the paddle might not have disengaged the boost directly, but possibly kicked in some regen for a second which would have cancelled the overboost. The time remaining should be assuming current throttle level, so technically it could go up if you're letting off the throttle but still within overboost range.
I may have misunderstood, but that sounds like inconsistent pedal response- the same amount of "throttle" might result in differing levels of power? Also, if you need 8 seconds of 100kW boost, you don't want to have lost that ability by having just used 80 seconds of 10kW approaching that location.
TBH I'm not 100% sure from the video that the boost is being switched on and off by paddles- but that would be a more Porsche-like implementation that enables the driver to be more in control of any temporary additional power capability. This is already the case with some ICE and Hybrid Porsches- the Sport Response Button in the centre of the Sport Chrono dial enables a burst of maximum drivetrain responsiveness- that seems a deliberate design choice over what you are proposing.
 


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I may have misunderstood, but that sounds like inconsistent pedal response- the same amount of "throttle" might result in differing levels of power?
Yes, just like a 911 Turbo (or any ICE car with a Turbo boost), except no spool-up time.
Also, if you need 8 seconds of 100kW boost, you don't want to have lost that ability by having just used 80 seconds of 10kW approaching that location.
Maybe, if your throttle control causes you to unnecessarily request 10% boost which you didn't really need, offer a boost suppression feature activate via a button or a flap. Taycans are road cars, most of the time a regular drive needs a boost when the accelerator hits the floor (e.g. they are overtaking). Very rarely would you begin an overtake with pedal to the metal while intentionally suppressing the boost until a later stage of overtaking. Most drivers will say "I want it when I hit the accelerator, without having to deal with pressing buttons on the dash".
This is already the case with some ICE and Hybrid Porsches- the Sport Response Button in the centre of the Sport Chrono dial enables a burst of maximum drivetrain responsiveness- that seems a deliberate design choice over what you are proposing.
Yes, the ignition ON/OFF switch is a deliberate remnant of ICE technology too - useless for EV cars really. IMO Porsche should progress with the world.
 

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Yes, the ignition ON/OFF switch is a deliberate remnant of ICE technology too - useless for EV cars really. IMO Porsche should progress with the world.
I like that switch!
I find it quite useful to switch off the car while sitting in it while charging. I do not want or need the displays to be activated or the car active at that stage. If I need cooling, heating, I can use that function easily.
And I do not have to use the button when I enter or exit the car, if I do not want to.
 

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Don't want competition to know the charging curves perhaps?
the only HPC charger close to the ring is from Tesla*
Guess that nice PR TSLA would get with a single photo showing that Porsche is charging the record Taycan at Teslas SC....

*it would make so much sense to build a nice and small exclusive Charging Lounge like Bingen at the Ring. I suggested it so many times....
 
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who from forum already did a so called touristenfahrt on the nuerburgring with own taycan? I have to plan it this year! Exciting to watch this video, is there an longer version available which shows the complete round? Driver says they smashed a lot of rounds with similiar lap time, how much exactly?

Are there information how many kwh they have on such laps? Iam courious how many laps they have taken before re-charge the battery again. Hope there will be an interview of this with more informations about.
yes I did. Consumption and temps depend so much on the laptime, so there is no clear answer. The record Taycan GT will not have completed more than one fast lap for sure.
In a recent Leipzig 4h endurance racing event we were easily able to drive quick (but not record) lap with ~40-50 kWh/100km but that course is way slower than the Nordschleife.

google or search the forum for the Drexelmaier paper on high-C negative impacts for such record laps there you see the huge amount of SoC being drawn.

on that small teaser video I saw Lars has paddles on his steering wheel. There was also something like a count down in the right dashboard tube. Not sure if this was a mispositioned laptimer (the lap position was between Hatzenbach and Flugplatz) or a new boost feature.
 

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Same is true if you simply enable boost when you the accelerator hits the floor, or approaches it fast enough. See how Audi or Tesla did that, they limit the overboost duration but it's triggered by the accelerator, not some dedicated button.
I don’t see a problem in holding a button. If I’m not mistaken, DRS works the same way
 

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Yes, just like a 911 Turbo (or any ICE car with a Turbo boost), except no spool-up time.
Yes, the ignition ON/OFF switch is a deliberate remnant of ICE technology too - useless for EV cars really. IMO Porsche should progress with the world.
You can’t use a deficiency in ICE to justify an operation in EV and lament an operation in EV as a carryover from ICE in the same post.

They have to be different posts. ?

For the record, I agree with @WuffvonTrips. Separate button. Consistent pedal. Like sport response button on PDK 911.
 

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Impressive and nice looking new lights and bumper. Here comes another depreciation hit haha
 

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WuffvonTrips said:
I may have misunderstood, but that sounds like inconsistent pedal response- the same amount of "throttle" might result in differing levels of power?
Yes, just like a 911 Turbo (or any ICE car with a Turbo boost), except no spool-up time.
Well, even without a turbo, an ICE will respond to the same accelerator input differently at different rpm (at different speeds, in different gears, etc). But drivers become accustomed to taking that into account, as it is consistent under a given set of obvious circumstances. My point is that automatic overboost management (constrained by thermal management) is less predictable, particularly when frequently called upon by enthusiastic driving.
Like I said, Porsche have presumably made a deliberate choice based on what they think their customers prefer, I don't think they aim to cater for the different preferences of most drivers (of other marques).
 

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Same is true if you simply enable boost when you the accelerator hits the floor, or approaches it fast enough. See how Audi or Tesla did that, they limit the overboost duration but it's triggered by the accelerator, not some dedicated button.
I'd MUCH rather have control over the boost than the car providing it automatically whenever the accelerator passes some given increment, but that's just me. I want to be in control of a limited resource to ensure it's there when I really want it to be.
 

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They should put the button on the wheel because if it was tied in with the throttle pedal idiots would complain about lack of power.
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