Do I need another charger ?

[W1NGE]

Got to say I’m a little annoyed with Porsche OPC now. Turns out the car advertised with Mobile Charger Connect now doesn’t have it as Porsche recalled them all due to being a fire risk. You would think that PEN protection would be essential. Maybe this was why they recalled them?

Not sure this is the case.

Some while back (MY 20 / MY21 / MY 22) there was a safety recall issued for various items and included the PMCC and PMC+. When I had the recall work done on my car they advised that they did not require my EVSE (PMCC) - so not sure if they are referring to that.

Since then (I now have MY23) I've not had any notification but aware that some folk in US had overheating issues (not limited to PMCC or Porsche) where recall work may have been performed.

If this is a 2nd hand car then perhaps the original VIN / Customer Order had the PMCC listed but they overlooked this in the sales description and not updated it to reflect that the car comes with the standard PMC+ - I'm just guessing but I would expect to be in the loop on any safety items from Porsche (they do a good job on that at least).

My PMCC was supplied with a new MY21 (2020) 4S which I kept when I got my MY23 GTS ST and handed back the standard PMC+ when the car was delivered last March.

Perhaps they will retire the PMCC (always possible) as I don't see it listed now on new builds. There is also a new dock for the PMC+ (similar to PMCC dock but without the cutout for the display) whereas none were available previously.

If your stick with the PMC+ it will be perfectly fine for home charging - same capability (7.4kW).

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[Remedy234]

Thanks. I’ve spoken to them and I think they are now going to supply a newer updated PMCC. I’d rather they didn’t though and just knock some money off.

 

[W1NGE]

Thanks. I’ve spoken to them and I think they are now going to supply a newer updated PMCC. I’d rather they didn’t though and just knock some money off.

Blimey!

To be honest I would not have spent the money originally on the PMCC given my supply was never going to be more than 7.4kW (no useful additional functionality on PMCC either) and would have persisted with the standard PMC+ offering. Because mine was free I took advantage.

Safe charging, whatever you decide to use.

 

[DM28]

ive ordered my New Taycan, via my lease company not realising there was an optional extra for Fast charging over 50Kw, im now told to add this item on the car needs to be re-quoted, having been some 6 months ago its now gone up by £110 / month, is this an essential extra or is there a way to retro fit something to improve charge capabilities

 

[Remedy234]

Porsche have now said they will supply me with a newer charger supplied to 22plate+ cars but have reiterated they aren’t PEN protected and should only be treated as an emergency charging lead and definitely not used as a regular one. I’m going to get a hypervolt fitted.

 

[W1NGE]

ive ordered my New Taycan, via my lease company not realising there was an optional extra for Fast charging over 50Kw, im now told to add this item on the car needs to be re-quoted, having been some 6 months ago its now gone up by £110 / month, is this an essential extra or is there a way to retro fit something to improve charge capabilities

Not sure what you are referring to.

The car will charge at up to 270kW as standard.

There is a 150 400v DC booster option which lets you access all of the available power from 400v EVSEs up to 150kW.

There are 400v and 800v DC EVSEs out there and historically 400v was common place. The Taycan is based on 800v battery architecture and so to leverage > 50kW from a 400v EVSE rated up to 150kW you would need the DC booster option otherwise you would be limited to 50kW at these types of EVSEs.

As an option it's a few hundred quid.

 

[W1NGE]

Porsche have now said they will supply me with a newer charger supplied to 22plate+ cars but have reiterated they aren’t PEN protected and should only be treated as an emergency charging lead and definitely not used as a regular one. I’m going to get a hypervolt fitted.

I would ask Porsche UK as I've not heard of this before and sometimes worry that knowledge at dealerships is not all that.

If it were an issue then Porsche UK would be legally obligated to write to all owners who were supplied either of the 2 EVSEs. Then Audi would require to do similar as it's common across the group.

 

[Remedy234]

I would ask Porsche UK as I've not heard of this before and sometimes worry that knowledge at dealerships is not all that.

If it were an issue then Porsche UK would be legally obligated to write to all owners who were supplied either of the 2 EVSEs. Then Audi would require to do similar as it's common across the group.

That’s what they told me today ??‍

 

[Rossmeldr]

ive ordered my New Taycan, via my lease company not realising there was an optional extra for Fast charging over 50Kw, im now told to add this item on the car needs to be re-quoted, having been some 6 months ago its now gone up by £110 / month, is this an essential extra or is there a way to retro fit something to improve charge capabilities

The majority of the price rise is probably not due to the increase cost (minimal) of the 150kw charger, but the change in interest rates and residual values. At the moment I’d avoid any requotes, as if you don’t requote you should keep the original rates etc. When I gave up waiting for my ordered Taycan and agreed to a (better specced) in stock car they tried to fob me off with a requote. I argued the toss and got them to keep the original interest rates and equivalent residual values from nearly 2 years ago!! and my quote went down by by £100 per month.
The 150kw charger is only useful if you plan to charge often from 400v Tesla sites, otherwise I wouldn’t bother. On an original quote when it worked out at a couple of quid a month, it was a no brainer, however, ill probably never use it so wouldn’t pay vast sums to add it.

 

[simcity]

The 150kw charger is only useful if you plan to charge often from 400v Tesla sites, otherwise I wouldn’t bother.

Couple of other networks that also have mainly 400V options -

• Osprey. Although there are some sites with 400/800v Kempower units
• Sainsbury’s now have around 22 sites and growing. Most of them again are 400V / 150 kW Kempower charge points.

 

[DM28]

Not sure what you are referring to.

The car will charge at up to 270kW as standard.

There is a 150 400v DC booster option which lets you access all of the available power from 400v EVSEs up to 150kW.

There are 400v and 800v DC EVSEs out there and historically 400v was common place. The Taycan is based on 800v battery architecture and so to leverage > 50kW from a 400v EVSE rated up to 150kW you would need the DC booster option otherwise you would be limited to 50kW at these types of EVSEs.

As an option it's a few hundred quid.

so without the optional booster I can use a 800v EVSE and get the full KWh?

I’m confused as this hasn’t been communicated to me at Porsche when I told them my predicament.

I hope this is the case

 

[simcity]

so without the optional booster I can use a 800v EVSE and get the full KWh?

I’m confused as this hasn’t been communicated to me at Porsche when I told them my predicament.

I hope this is the case

That’s correct.

 

[DM28]

The majority of the price rise is probably not due to the increase cost (minimal) of the 150kw charger, but the change in interest rates and residual values. At the moment I’d avoid any requotes, as if you don’t requote you should keep the original rates etc. When I gave up waiting for my ordered Taycan and agreed to a (better specced) in stock car they tried to fob me off with a requote. I argued the toss and got them to keep the original interest rates and equivalent residual values from nearly 2 years ago!! and my quote went down by by £100 per month.
The 150kw charger is only useful if you plan to charge often from 400v Tesla sites, otherwise I wouldn’t bother. On an original quote when it worked out at a couple of quid a month, it was a no brainer, however, ill probably never use it so wouldn’t pay vast sums to add it.

yes the uplift was due to general yearly model upgrades prices

so to confirm I can get full charge capabilities on 800v stations? So at high voltage Tesla 250Kwh charge points, I’d get the full KWh, without the upgrade option added

sorry but this has been a really concern for me as the car is due to be built soon

thanks

 

[DM28]

That’s correct.

Do All models of Taycan support 800v charge capabilities?

or is it only the GTS sports models?

 

[DM28]

Couple of other networks that also have mainly 400V options -

• Osprey. Although there are some sites with 400/800v Kempower units
• Sainsbury’s now have around 22 sites and growing. Most of them again are 400V / 150 kW Kempower charge points.

Is there a decent 800v network.
my current cars a Tesla so the superchargers are a god send to me, this is why I’m now concerned when I get the Taycan without this 150kw upgrade, unless I can use 800kw points and there’s a decent network across the country

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